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the planets up the Masters almost surely

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have a plan

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this clearly maybe something there

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beyond the realm of man

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you know the less you do that's true dr.

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Zaius

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all right higher side chatters after all

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the suppressed technology secret science

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and alchemical effects we've talked

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about it becomes obvious that there are

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pockets of the power pyramid that have

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kept enough of these things to

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themselves through the years to justify

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the terms we use like breakaway

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civilization and secret space program

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well with us again almost a year to the

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date is a great researcher in this vein

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Walter Bosley the product of a military

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family himself he's worked serving as a

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counterintelligence agent for the FBI a

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special agent for the Air Force and a

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consultant in the private sector he's

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also used his training military insight

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and investigative skills to dig deeper

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into several pieces of the big

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conspiracy pie but most notably this

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very notion of a breakaway civilization

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in our last show

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Walter broke down how a group of

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hermetic Prussian nationalists known as

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the nimza likely developed advanced

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technology based on their rediscovery of

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something ancient and then an aligned

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group called the Sonora Aero Club way

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back in the mid 19th century seems to

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have created exotic flying machines in

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the California desert that could have

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been responsible for the vast Aero ship

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sightings 40 years later and might have

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even resulted in a Tesla developed craft

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capable of making it to Mars in 1903

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it's a lot to unpack but in the years

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since that interview new developments

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have come to light that very well may

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tie this underground network to the

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family of the President himself and

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that's what I call the sweet spot ladies

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and gentlemen back in the saddle for

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another wild ride the author of several

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great books the deep state decoder

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himself the man who knows the plan

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Walter Bosley welcome back to the higher

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side hey Greg it's great to be here I'm

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looking forward to this yeah me too

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thanks for doing it your work is just

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really stuck with me and when it comes

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to tracking back the progression of

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secret flying machines exotic fuel

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sources and this connection to German

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nationalists you have made really huge

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contributions and rather than talking

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about the same old bullet point

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surrounding the Nazi bell or the reverse

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engineering of the Roswell craft you

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have fleshed out this story and filled

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in a lot of the holes there and it just

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seems to go much deeper and I guess in

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the interest of leaving no man behind

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can we give the people just a little

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more context about the nimza Sonora Aero

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Club Nexus and set up the story for the

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pieces we're going to add

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help maybe refresh their memories a bit

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if you could what should we know about

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this group and that time period between

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1850 and the early 1900s well

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fortunately the book I'm currently

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working on is going to go into greater

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detail than I've ever had before

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regarding this organization nimza so

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there's that to look forward to in about

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another month or so so this conversation

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is timed really well it's going to kind

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of whet the appetite of the listeners

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but essentially when we're talking about

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the 19th century period leading into the

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the Russian nationalists who it is

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believed called themselves nimza and

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were pursuing a development of

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technology that it appears they believed

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would give them greater leverage in

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pushing towards a unified Germany which

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of course eventually happened and then

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went much farther in the early 20th

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century rise of the Nazi Party and

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essentially this 19th century nimza

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on a Charles Dell shall was a German

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headquartered organization that had

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apparently several little groups under

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its wing under its ages and they would

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finance and provide you know various

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resources for these little groups to

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develop this particular technology and

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the case in point that Dell shall

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focused on was a little group of German

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immigrants to the United States that

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called themselves the Sonora Aero Club

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and they operated out of Tuolumne County

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just west of Yosemite National Park and

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these guys in the 1850s were allegedly

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building what I would call proof of

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concept flying machines okay I want you

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okay the history of the automobile and I

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want you to go back to the Ford

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tt-that was just a car right four wheels

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motor and a place to fit in a steering

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wheel but basic car proof of concept I

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mean particularly when you compare that

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to cars 3040 years later in them today

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that's what these Sonora Aero Club

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flying contraptions were proof of

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concept now where nimza came in was that

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they were the group that had some type

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of oversight involvement which the

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leaders the guys in the Sonora Aero Club

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ultimately rejected okay they ultimately

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did not want to go the way that nimza

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wanted them to go consider nimza to be

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the first true military industrial

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complex hmm you know in modern times

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because that's really what they were

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putting together in my books i theorize

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and effect I lay out several of the

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suspects that were top industrialists

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you know and financial leaders and guys

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who were very much into alchemy and the

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occult sciences and such these are the

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guys that I lay out as suspects who

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would have been the members of this

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Prussian group nimza okay and they were

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really putting together literally this

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military industrial complex they were

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using their resources to develop this

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technology and what they wanted to do

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was have these guys of the Sonora Aero

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Club and probably the others that we

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don't hear about from del shell other

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than a mentioned nimza wanted them to

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equip these flying machines for military

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application with weapons and such and

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the guys in the Sonora Aero Club didn't

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want to they rejected that that's a

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whole interesting other story the leader

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of the Sonora Aero Club Peter Menace

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ended up allegedly dying in an explosion

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and crash of one of these things

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possible that it could have been

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murdered it's possible that he might

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have faked his death to you know escape

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the nimza but this was in the 1850s now

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the decade before the American Civil War

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airship mystery emerges I personally

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think that that was a product of an

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American group

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that had been developing this airship

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technology but we have other sources

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that have nimza emerging in the New York

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esoteric a coat milieu of the 1890s

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we're talking John W Keeley

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Elena Blavatsky and that group and that

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and here we have nimza allegedly still

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existing and being involved with things

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to do with this flying machine

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technology and of course that milieu is

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a link into the 20th century early 20th

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century German mystics who were involved

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with the guys who founded the Nazi Party

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and of course the rest is history

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so as you can see and all of that nimza

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is this shadowy organization that was

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really operating like a breakaway

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because they obviously had their own

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resources and wealth enough to be

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independent now when I say national was

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crushin nationalists they weren't an

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official you know there was no Prussian

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single government because it was before

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Germany was unified but even after they

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unified they weren't particularly you

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know a German government agency they

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weren't part of the German military they

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were still their own thing so that's

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what we're talking about here that's the

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context it was very Russian in its

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membership it was crushing in its goals

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and objectives and its main objective

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was a unified Germany that dominated

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globally okay and when you see their

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roots into the formation of a Nazi Party

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it becomes obvious what they were about

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however all that said that context of

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19th century and early 20th century all

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that said I still say and I go into this

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in my books and I'm especially going

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into this end of a new one there was a

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nimza that was a bigger larger

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organization in the background of back

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in other words the Prussian

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the Charles L shall talked about that

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we've just been talking about that was a

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subordinate group within a larger more

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secretive group and I've already gone

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into that and stuff I've already done

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but like I said new details and much

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more coming forth well that is some

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great context for sure and I definitely

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plan to have a few questions for you

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about that higher capstone group and

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this is a hell of a structure with like

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you said tons of subgroups but I also

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wanted to ask you a little bit more

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about the 1903 group I guess that's the

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term that you give them yeah I guess

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they came out of dissolving the sin or

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our arrow club and then turned into this

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other group tell us a little bit about

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them and kind of how that ties into the

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Tesla story well and again this is how I

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have pieced this together okay if you go

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to an excellent book by a gentleman

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named Michael Busby titled solving the

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1896 or 1897 I'd have to look at the

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book it's not sitting in front of me

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solving the 1896 airship mystery busby

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provides some excellent data involved in

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all this stuff that was going on around

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people seeing these airships in the

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skies over several cities west of the

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Mississippi in the United States I mean

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they were all over the place from the

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Midwest down to Texas Utah California I

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mean it was amazing now remember we're

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talking the 1890s people in the 1890s

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knew the difference between a hot air

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balloon a dirigible and these airships

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they were describing okay they knew the

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difference and when you really get into

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the reports and read the descriptions

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you'll see that there's clearly a

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difference in the details of these

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things and how they operate and how they

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function what's interesting is Busbee

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points out an actual guy there's a photo

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oven in the book a man named Solomon

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Andrews who went to Abraham Lincoln's

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admit

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raishin I believe he wrote Lincoln

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directly and said he had developed a

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flying machine

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that would be good for reconnaissance

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and such and I think this was 1863 and

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Lincoln was intrigued and instructed his

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war secretary Edwin Stanton to take a

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look at Solomon Andrews flying

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contraption well according to the news

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reports of the day Solomon Andrews

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demonstrated this flying machine which

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he called the air on the AE ro n the air

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on he demonstrated it for several

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officers from the War Department and

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journalists is Washington DC journalists

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of the day they talked about it flying

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and its maneuverability and such now

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history tells us that Edwin Stanton told

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Andrews thanks but no thanks we're in

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the middle of this war you know I don't

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see where there's an application here

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thank you very much goodbye and we're

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told the story ends right there

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we're Solomon Andrews and his flying

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machine are concerned well I disagree

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with that because thirty years later you

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have the airship mystery okay and there

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is a smoking gun which connects it back

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in my opinion to the US War Department

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and this is why I think this was a

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result of the first American black

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project and that is this in the 1890s

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history there is a report of a witness

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who encountered one of these airships on

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the ground and had a lengthy

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conversation with the two men who were

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manning it who were flying it and those

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two men were Colonel Samuel Tillman US

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Army and professor Amos dole bear now

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Amos dole bear you can look up both

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these guys by the way they're on the

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internet look them up they really live

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there's photos of them the whole resume

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of what they did dole bear one of the

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things he did one of his inventions was

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a telephone

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prior to Alexander Graham Bell's version

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fact I believe Colbert had even sued

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Bell over the issue so

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golde there's a real guy in history

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Tilman US army officer was a

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cartographer a geographer he was a

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chemist he was an explorer all the

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things that are interestingly that are

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involved in the airship history

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regarding propulsion and how these

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things fly Samuel Tillman was an expert

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in he ended up being Commandant of West

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Point when World War one broke out this

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is a real guy now here's what's

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interesting in this 1890s incident it is

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Tillman and Dole there who show this guy

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their airship explain how it works

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basically and offer to give them a

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flight and such and I mean these were

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human beings these were real actual guys

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now what's interesting is Tillman and

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dole bear it's not like they were famous

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celebrities okay so why if someone's

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going to make this up they would pull

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those guys out of a hat you know is

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interesting but when you look at the

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fact that it was Tillman involved in one

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of these reports to me that indicates a

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connection somehow to that u.s. War

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Department story and Solomon Andrews now

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the scenario that I extrapolate out of

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this and I admit it's speculation but

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the scenario I extrapolate out of this

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is that Stanton did not reject Solomon

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Andrews technology it's that we were

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indeed in the middle of a war that had

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to be taken care of first and what I

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suggest is once the war was over the US

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government said hey you know what let's

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do something with this now why would it

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be a black project why would it be

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secret well you know various political

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intrigues there were still countries in

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Europe and such that really would like

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to have seen us fail there were British

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bankers that were pumping money to the

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Confederacy privately you know they

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wanted to see the u.s. fail so you know

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this was in those days where well if

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we've got this technology this could be

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an edge let's keep it secret another

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angle could be that because the war had

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just ended we were in the Reconstruction

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period how would it have looked if when

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the CAF the country needed to be rebuilt

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they're spending money on this

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contraption like something out of a

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Jules Verne story so there are a few

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legitimate reasons why this would have

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been our first black project why they

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would have kept it secret and I say that

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between what Solomon Andrews

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demonstrated in 1863 or four and what

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people were recording in the 1890s I say

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you had 30 years of development so

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Solomon Andrews rudimentary Aaron had

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developed into the more complicated

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airships like what Hillman and dole bear

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were reportedly flying around okay now

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the world was changing America was

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changing as we were leaving the 19th

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century and going into the 20th century

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people could see the direction things

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were going and certainly I think some of

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these guys who were involved with these

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airships in the 1890s I don't think they

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liked where things were going so we get

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into 1903 the year in question there is

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a legend out there a rumored legend that

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Nikola Tesla had designed an airship

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that these guys built and possibly flew

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to Mars and they flew away and they were

394
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never seen again now as crazy as that

395
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sounds we do have Tesla having had

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worked on his ideas of anti-gravity and

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flying machines and such so there is a

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sliver a margin of possibility that

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Tesla would have been involved in an

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attempt to do this now of course by 1903

401
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the 1890s airship mystery had been all

402
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over the newspapers so one could argue

403
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that the whole Tesla airship to Mars

404
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thing was just a big fantasy inspired by

405
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that of course that is possible but

406
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we're talking about you know being

407
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within a context here that these things

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possibly happen and we have the evidence

409
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like Samuel Tillman being

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one of the identified pilots of these

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things so we go to the 20th century and

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let's continue on the limb of

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speculation and say that this theory is

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right that there was this you know group

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that had developed these things the next

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logical thing for them to attempt I

417
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could see would be flying one of these

418
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things off the planet the most obvious

419
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target would have been the moon but why

420
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not Mars Mars had been looked at for

421
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years and all this interesting stuff

422
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imagined and proposed about it so why

423
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not Mars well supposing that they

424
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attempted this and it worked okay and

425
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let's say they survived what's

426
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interesting is a decade later or so

427
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Tesla writes an article in which he

428
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talks about receiving what he believes

429
00:19:30,870 --> 00:19:28,090
were intelligent signals from space from

430
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Mars a researcher a guy named Jonathan

431
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Battista brought it to my attention

432
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one day and he suggested what if these

433
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signals that Tesla was talking about in

434
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that article were actually

435
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communications from this group that

436
00:19:50,030 --> 00:19:46,030
attempted their flight to Mars

437
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what if they survived what if it worked

438
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therein lies the little speck of

439
00:20:01,470 --> 00:19:57,940
possibility that I proposed this

440
00:20:03,870 --> 00:20:01,480
breakaway that I call the 1903 obviously

441
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I call them the 1903 because that's the

442
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year associated with this crazy story of

443
00:20:12,630 --> 00:20:11,410
guys flying a Tesla airship to Mars you

444
00:20:16,050 --> 00:20:12,640
know if it worked

445
00:20:18,180 --> 00:20:16,060
my theory is they saw what they had who

446
00:20:20,270 --> 00:20:18,190
knows what they found on Mars consider

447
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what we think we're finding on Mars now

448
00:20:25,470 --> 00:20:23,200
now just have fun with this just have

449
00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:25,480
fun with this let's say 104 years ago

450
00:20:30,750 --> 00:20:28,690
these guys really got there and they

451
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found the same remnants of the

452
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civilization that we think we're finding

453
00:20:38,970 --> 00:20:36,610
today okay what would you know what

454
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would they have done well I say that

455
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that was the decision point

456
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the turning point I say that's when they

457
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would have looked at what they had what

458
00:20:51,690 --> 00:20:48,100
they found and that's when they decided

459
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to break away and make this technology

460
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their own because remember these are the

461
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guys who had developed it these are the

462
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guys that you know they felt kind of an

463
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ownership of it because they were the

464
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ones who had carried it thus far they

465
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were the one to doing these things and

466
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that is kind of the the basic background

467
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of how I came to this theory that there

468
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is this breakaway that I call the 1903 I

469
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now if they exist I don't know what they

470
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call themselves right I refer to them as

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the 1903 and philosophically in my

472
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opinion they would have been quite

473
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opposed to the nimza okay very much

474
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opposed to the names oh right on so

475
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that's a great story that I love and

476
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quite a few building blocks now how do

477
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we connect the dots from from here to

478
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the current president or his family oh

479
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that is a story that made my jaw drop

480
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you and I have Stephen Romano to thank

481
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for pointing it out to me Stephen Romano

482
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runs a gallery in New York and he and

483
00:22:02,700 --> 00:21:58,990
some other writers put together this

484
00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:02,710
book about Charles del shell which is

485
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primarily a large book full color plates

486
00:22:10,830 --> 00:22:09,039
of Charles del shells art his drawings

487
00:22:13,620 --> 00:22:10,840
of these flying contraptions from the

488
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1850 it's an astonishing book I

489
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recommend it highly to anyone really

490
00:22:20,100 --> 00:22:17,830
interested in this stuff and one day a

491
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couple years back maybe a year or so ago

492
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I'd have to look Steven asked me if I

493
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had noticed this particular little batch

494
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of drawings del shall did hundreds of

495
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these by the way I mean I have laid eyes

496
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on all of them still myself but Steven

497
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pointed out a drawing which dates back

498
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sometime between 1890 and 1910 that del

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shall did of one of these flying

500
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machines from the 1850s which was

501
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designed and allegedly constructed by

502
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one of the original

503
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members of the Sonora Aero Club okay and

504
00:23:05,820 --> 00:23:01,140
that man's name in the 1850s was Trump

505
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er UMP and there in his drawings dating

506
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back sometime between 1890 and 1910 is

507
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the arrow and it had the name Trump

508
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right there in the artwork I've

509
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published an article on this of course

510
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and I'll be including you know the

511
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discussion does in the new book but it's

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on my Empire the wheel blog spot.com you

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scroll down you'll find it you can't

514
00:23:29,100 --> 00:23:25,360
miss it

515
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now so there was that and that made my

516
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jaw drop I mean could it be we know that

517
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Donald Trump's family ancestors from

518
00:23:38,640 --> 00:23:36,100
Germany immigrated here in the 19th

519
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century was it possible that there's a

520
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:40,900
connection between his family and this

521
00:23:48,150 --> 00:23:45,010
Trump guy in the 1850s Sonora Aero Club

522
00:23:50,010 --> 00:23:48,160
well you know if we just had that it

523
00:23:52,380 --> 00:23:50,020
would be this interesting little quirky

524
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thing but there's the rest of the story

525
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right and that's where the 1903 comes in

526
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now to give the quick background I argue

527
00:24:05,070 --> 00:24:02,460
that how Solomon Andrews in the 1860s

528
00:24:07,530 --> 00:24:05,080
came to know about this anti-gravity

529
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:07,540
stuff is that it's very possible he was

530
00:24:13,190 --> 00:24:10,450
associated somehow with members of the

531
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Sonora Aero Club or one of the other

532
00:24:19,860 --> 00:24:16,330
groups that we don't know about the del

533
00:24:22,140 --> 00:24:19,870
shall just alluded to and so you might

534
00:24:25,230 --> 00:24:22,150
have had some of the Sonora Aero Club

535
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:25,240
guys involved in this black project as

536
00:24:28,770 --> 00:24:27,010
post-civil war black project now

537
00:24:32,210 --> 00:24:28,780
remember Solomon Andrews called his

538
00:24:35,250 --> 00:24:32,220
flooring machine the air on a ero N and

539
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del shall you know he referred to the

540
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ones the decade priors arrows a ero

541
00:24:42,030 --> 00:24:39,940
now I know that that's a prefix having

542
00:24:45,390 --> 00:24:42,040
to do with things aeronautical aeroplane

543
00:24:47,370 --> 00:24:45,400
you know and so forth but it's

544
00:24:48,810 --> 00:24:47,380
interesting that there's this similarity

545
00:24:53,010 --> 00:24:48,820
on what they call their contraptions

546
00:24:55,770 --> 00:24:53,020
okay now what I'm saying is if the

547
00:24:57,780 --> 00:24:55,780
pedigree of this black project includes

548
00:25:00,900 --> 00:24:57,790
guys from the Sonora Aero Club of the

549
00:25:03,930 --> 00:25:00,910
1850s into this black project that stood

550
00:25:07,290 --> 00:25:03,940
up post-civil war in 1865 and was

551
00:25:08,549 --> 00:25:07,300
involved in the 1890s airship mystery we

552
00:25:15,539 --> 00:25:08,559
know

553
00:25:18,570 --> 00:25:15,549
in the United States by the 1880s if he

554
00:25:20,669 --> 00:25:18,580
is also a descendant of the Trump in the

555
00:25:24,539 --> 00:25:20,679
Sonora era club it's very possible that

556
00:25:26,850 --> 00:25:24,549
that Sonora Aaron club Trump you know

557
00:25:29,759 --> 00:25:26,860
had some contact with or something to do

558
00:25:32,489 --> 00:25:29,769
with Donald Trump's ancestor that was

559
00:25:36,060 --> 00:25:32,499
here in the 1880s and that there might

560
00:25:39,149 --> 00:25:36,070
have been a trump involved in this 1890s

561
00:25:41,909 --> 00:25:39,159
airship mystery milieu okay now that's

562
00:25:44,999 --> 00:25:41,919
not even the interesting part we get to

563
00:25:47,249 --> 00:25:45,009
this 1903 story where Tesla's I said

564
00:25:50,060 --> 00:25:47,259
before allegedly you know an airship of

565
00:25:53,700 --> 00:25:50,070
his design flies to Mars and on so forth

566
00:25:55,980 --> 00:25:53,710
we you know subsequently know that Tesla

567
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:55,990
got involved with secret US technology

568
00:26:02,249 --> 00:25:58,450
as we got into World War two

569
00:26:05,009 --> 00:26:02,259
into that era we come to 1943 when

570
00:26:07,739 --> 00:26:05,019
Nikola Tesla dies okay he lived in a

571
00:26:08,730 --> 00:26:07,749
room in a hotel in New York City and the

572
00:26:11,940 --> 00:26:08,740
day he died

573
00:26:14,899 --> 00:26:11,950
federal agents showed up at his room and

574
00:26:19,109 --> 00:26:14,909
removed documents from his personal safe

575
00:26:21,029 --> 00:26:19,119
okay now peculation is that these

576
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:21,039
documents involved classified technology

577
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:24,610
that he had been doing for the Office of

578
00:26:34,320 --> 00:26:32,049
Naval Research okay and the FBI wanted

579
00:26:37,820 --> 00:26:34,330
to take a look at the time at these

580
00:26:41,190 --> 00:26:37,830
papers so they hired or enlisted an

581
00:26:42,930 --> 00:26:41,200
expert a technical expert to look at

582
00:26:44,909 --> 00:26:42,940
those documents this is history

583
00:26:47,940 --> 00:26:44,919
this is fact there's no speculation here

584
00:26:51,180 --> 00:26:47,950
the FBI hired this individual with the

585
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:51,190
technical expertise to look at Tesla's

586
00:26:56,999 --> 00:26:54,129
papers that they were allowed to see by

587
00:27:00,359 --> 00:26:57,009
the Navy okay and I believe the

588
00:27:02,909 --> 00:27:00,369
Immigration Service at the time the guy

589
00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:02,919
that they hired to look through Tesla's

590
00:27:09,600 --> 00:27:07,450
papers was John Trump Donald Trump's

591
00:27:12,119 --> 00:27:09,610
uncle who he has spoken up on several

592
00:27:13,889 --> 00:27:12,129
occasions John Trump was I believe an

593
00:27:17,789 --> 00:27:13,899
electrical engineer he was an engineer

594
00:27:19,919 --> 00:27:17,799
and associated with MIT you can look him

595
00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:19,929
up real guy the president talked about

596
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:22,210
him all the time he was the

597
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:24,490
guy who would understand Tesla's papers

598
00:27:29,130 --> 00:27:27,250
now we're told that John Trump reported

599
00:27:31,380 --> 00:27:29,140
to the FBI there's nothing here that

600
00:27:34,170 --> 00:27:31,390
would be of grave importance for the war

601
00:27:39,560 --> 00:27:34,180
effort right now you know but there are

602
00:27:42,830 --> 00:27:39,570
some interesting ideas so

603
00:27:44,450 --> 00:27:42,840
that was a bombshell really that and the

604
00:27:46,970 --> 00:27:44,460
fact that there was a trump in the

605
00:27:49,250 --> 00:27:46,980
Senora arrow club so what do i

606
00:27:53,540 --> 00:27:49,260
extrapolate from this and it's it's a

607
00:27:56,360 --> 00:27:53,550
speculation I laid out for you how you

608
00:27:58,490 --> 00:27:56,370
know Donald Trump's ancestors could have

609
00:28:01,330 --> 00:27:58,500
been involved in this whole airship

610
00:28:04,090 --> 00:28:01,340
mystery technology development of the

611
00:28:08,020 --> 00:28:04,100
19th century

612
00:28:10,510 --> 00:28:08,030
if there were Trump's involved with this

613
00:28:12,700 --> 00:28:10,520
group I call the 19:03 if there were

614
00:28:17,410 --> 00:28:12,710
Trump's that knew about what these guys

615
00:28:19,840 --> 00:28:17,420
had done in going to Mars okay and uh

616
00:28:21,970 --> 00:28:19,850
you know Breaking Away establishing

617
00:28:25,210 --> 00:28:21,980
their own little secretive group it

618
00:28:28,390 --> 00:28:25,220
would be serving their interests if they

619
00:28:31,930 --> 00:28:28,400
had their family member their guy John

620
00:28:33,900 --> 00:28:31,940
Trump taking a look at Tesla's papers to

621
00:28:37,570 --> 00:28:33,910
see if there's any mention of this

622
00:28:42,190 --> 00:28:37,580
alleged flight to Mars or this 1903

623
00:28:45,130 --> 00:28:42,200
group right and if John Trump was

624
00:28:46,870 --> 00:28:45,140
involved in this or played along you

625
00:28:49,300 --> 00:28:46,880
know he might have played it down he

626
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:49,310
might have removed the part about any

627
00:28:53,980 --> 00:28:51,770
mention of the 1903 or made sure that

628
00:28:57,510 --> 00:28:53,990
that remained secret classified whatever

629
00:28:59,950 --> 00:28:57,520
this is all of speculation but we have

630
00:29:03,550 --> 00:28:59,960
the uncle of the current president

631
00:29:05,860 --> 00:29:03,560
United States as you know he is the guy

632
00:29:10,090 --> 00:29:05,870
the FBI hired to look at Tesla's papers

633
00:29:12,010 --> 00:29:10,100
may we've got mezcla with his alleged

634
00:29:14,980 --> 00:29:12,020
connections to the airship mystery you

635
00:29:17,790 --> 00:29:14,990
see the math an interesting math starts

636
00:29:20,620 --> 00:29:17,800
to add up now people will obviously say

637
00:29:24,550 --> 00:29:20,630
did this have anything to do with Donald

638
00:29:27,640 --> 00:29:24,560
Trump becoming president my comments on

639
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:30,610
isn't it interesting that this guy that

640
00:29:34,510 --> 00:29:32,570
set aside personal opinions or whatever

641
00:29:36,580 --> 00:29:34,520
yeah I'm not getting into a political

642
00:29:38,890 --> 00:29:36,590
discussion isn't it interesting that

643
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:38,900
this particular guy who rubs so many

644
00:29:44,170 --> 00:29:40,730
people the wrong way and so forth and on

645
00:29:46,060 --> 00:29:44,180
he takes on the two most powerful

646
00:29:50,590 --> 00:29:46,070
political families of the last thirty

647
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:50,600
years right and they come across like

648
00:29:56,950 --> 00:29:54,650
flaccid limp rags nothing they try works

649
00:29:59,790 --> 00:29:56,960
their hat is handed to them and they're

650
00:30:03,370 --> 00:29:59,800
told thank you bye-bye right and then

651
00:30:06,130 --> 00:30:03,380
you know Hillary hangs in there and look

652
00:30:08,230 --> 00:30:06,140
what a fool she's made to look like you

653
00:30:12,970 --> 00:30:08,240
got to ask yourself Wow

654
00:30:16,170 --> 00:30:12,980
who was powerful enough to render the

655
00:30:19,720 --> 00:30:16,180
bush dynasty and the Clinton machine as

656
00:30:23,950 --> 00:30:19,730
impotent as they clearly became I mean

657
00:30:27,430 --> 00:30:23,960
look how soon Jeb was shot down oh my

658
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:27,440
gosh the tactics right right so you got

659
00:30:31,180 --> 00:30:29,450
to ask yourself what's interesting is

660
00:30:33,340 --> 00:30:31,190
every person who runs for president has

661
00:30:35,710 --> 00:30:33,350
a little mafia will say a little em I

662
00:30:37,540 --> 00:30:35,720
don't mean the Italian mafia or the you

663
00:30:39,820 --> 00:30:37,550
know whatever a little em you know

664
00:30:42,250 --> 00:30:39,830
they've got a powerful group you know

665
00:30:44,710 --> 00:30:42,260
power group behind them and you got to

666
00:30:48,100 --> 00:30:44,720
ask yourself okay who was behind Trump

667
00:30:49,510 --> 00:30:48,110
was it the Russians no that's friggin

668
00:30:53,140 --> 00:30:49,520
ridiculous okay

669
00:30:55,030 --> 00:30:53,150
I suggest based on all the stuff we're

670
00:30:57,910 --> 00:30:55,040
talking about this Trump and the Sonora

671
00:31:00,940 --> 00:30:57,920
Aero Club his you know Uncle John being

672
00:31:03,090 --> 00:31:00,950
the guy who got to see these famously

673
00:31:05,860 --> 00:31:03,100
mysterious Tesla papers think about that

674
00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:05,870
you've got this airship history history

675
00:31:12,130 --> 00:31:08,210
milieu you've got Trump's involved in

676
00:31:15,450 --> 00:31:12,140
that hmm baby I'm right maybe there is

677
00:31:19,870 --> 00:31:15,460
this group that yeah I call the 1903 and

678
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:19,880
it makes a lot of sense that nimza would

679
00:31:24,400 --> 00:31:22,610
back up the Clinton machine that nimza

680
00:31:27,610 --> 00:31:24,410
would also at the same time back up the

681
00:31:29,680 --> 00:31:27,620
bush dynasty because with those two

682
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:29,690
groups we're talking about globalists

683
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:31,370
we're talking about Neil Kahn's we're

684
00:31:36,670 --> 00:31:34,330
talking you know about modern fascists

685
00:31:39,520 --> 00:31:36,680
socialists you know two sides of the

686
00:31:41,770 --> 00:31:39,530
same coin that want to do the same thing

687
00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:41,780
with their power in the war

688
00:31:49,750 --> 00:31:46,460
they are clear nimza cut out in my

689
00:31:51,730 --> 00:31:49,760
perspective so you would have a ninja

690
00:31:53,800 --> 00:31:51,740
behind them well who could stand up to

691
00:31:57,400 --> 00:31:53,810
ninja theoretically with all this stuff

692
00:32:00,270 --> 00:31:57,410
I've said so far today who could stand

693
00:32:03,310 --> 00:32:00,280
up to ninja possibly the splinter group

694
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:03,320
that's right this other group the 19:03

695
00:32:07,420 --> 00:32:04,730
that what did I say about them before

696
00:32:09,940 --> 00:32:07,430
they would have I firmly believe they

697
00:32:13,810 --> 00:32:09,950
would have and do if they exist oppose

698
00:32:17,470 --> 00:32:13,820
nimza and apparently they can match

699
00:32:20,380 --> 00:32:17,480
their power because I suggest that

700
00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:20,390
that's who the Mafia behind Donald

701
00:32:25,900 --> 00:32:24,050
Trump's winning the presidency that's

702
00:32:28,690 --> 00:32:25,910
who was behind that who helped him

703
00:32:30,790 --> 00:32:28,700
confidently take on I mean cuz look at

704
00:32:33,400 --> 00:32:30,800
the court in dynasty or the bush dynasty

705
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:33,410
and the Clinton machine you know clearly

706
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:34,970
they're both willing to do ruthless

707
00:32:43,690 --> 00:32:39,730
things right okay and they look like

708
00:32:47,350 --> 00:32:43,700
fools up against you know Trump's

709
00:32:48,490 --> 00:32:47,360
machine that's true one other element I

710
00:32:52,420 --> 00:32:48,500
wanted to bring up to you I don't know

711
00:32:55,680 --> 00:32:52,430
if you saw this but John G Trump gave an

712
00:32:57,940 --> 00:32:55,690
interview for a school of radionics

713
00:32:59,140 --> 00:32:57,950
archival library you can find it on

714
00:33:00,940 --> 00:32:59,150
YouTube it's an old black-and-white

715
00:33:03,580 --> 00:33:00,950
interview where they got him at an old

716
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:03,590
age have you seen this no I haven't oh

717
00:33:08,470 --> 00:33:06,290
it is amazing because there's so many

718
00:33:10,690 --> 00:33:08,480
keywords in it he talks about working

719
00:33:12,040 --> 00:33:10,700
for Weston when that became Bell Labs

720
00:33:16,270 --> 00:33:12,050
when they changed their name to Bell

721
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:16,280
Labs he also mentions himself in the

722
00:33:21,220 --> 00:33:18,410
first person on camera he mentions

723
00:33:24,670 --> 00:33:21,230
consulting Vannevar Bush personally on

724
00:33:26,410 --> 00:33:24,680
his thesis and then Vannevar recommended

725
00:33:27,940 --> 00:33:26,420
that he connect with another scientist

726
00:33:29,830 --> 00:33:27,950
whose name I can't remember and hadn't

727
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:29,840
heard before but another scientist who

728
00:33:34,810 --> 00:33:32,210
was working on some wild theories that

729
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:34,820
Vannevar said he checked out and they

730
00:33:40,870 --> 00:33:38,570
seem to have some merit so he has this

731
00:33:43,300 --> 00:33:40,880
problem he can't solve in his thesis he

732
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:43,310
goes to van of her Bush and Vannevar

733
00:33:47,620 --> 00:33:45,050
Bush recommends this guy who's working

734
00:33:50,680 --> 00:33:47,630
on wild theories so that key term wild

735
00:33:53,020 --> 00:33:50,690
theories he sets off all kinds of alarm

736
00:33:54,190 --> 00:33:53,030
bells in my head and it is so

737
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:54,200
interesting to see that particular

738
00:33:57,570 --> 00:33:55,210
interview

739
00:34:01,710 --> 00:33:57,580
and it ties it right into this nexus but

740
00:34:04,140 --> 00:34:01,720
I guess my only confusion or contention

741
00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:04,150
would be that it seems like maybe we

742
00:34:08,610 --> 00:34:06,250
have a criminal or an underground

743
00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:08,620
network who just changed the horses they

744
00:34:13,230 --> 00:34:10,450
were going to back because Goldman Sachs

745
00:34:15,360 --> 00:34:13,240
is funding both sides in a large way we

746
00:34:17,820 --> 00:34:15,370
have this interview where John G Trump

747
00:34:19,830 --> 00:34:17,830
is working in the same building as

748
00:34:22,260 --> 00:34:19,840
Vannevar bush I wonder if for some

749
00:34:24,720 --> 00:34:22,270
reason they just said out with the old

750
00:34:27,030 --> 00:34:24,730
we're gonna go a different direction but

751
00:34:28,950 --> 00:34:27,040
it's still the same mafia or at least

752
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:28,960
elements of it at the top things are so

753
00:34:33,060 --> 00:34:31,210
interconnected it's really hard to

754
00:34:37,020 --> 00:34:33,070
separate out two groups but you know you

755
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:37,030
would know better than me unless unless

756
00:34:42,780 --> 00:34:40,450
you come from the perspective I'm going

757
00:34:45,060 --> 00:34:42,790
to share to maybe you know illuminate

758
00:34:48,360 --> 00:34:45,070
this with an example now for three years

759
00:34:50,160 --> 00:34:48,370
when I was an OSI agent for my three

760
00:34:51,870 --> 00:34:50,170
years at wright-patterson Air Force Base

761
00:34:54,030 --> 00:34:51,880
I was chief of a counter espionage

762
00:34:57,330 --> 00:34:54,040
operations branch what that is double

763
00:35:00,240 --> 00:34:57,340
agent operations okay now in the

764
00:35:03,060 --> 00:35:00,250
intelligence world you have spooks of

765
00:35:07,380 --> 00:35:03,070
opposing factions many times working

766
00:35:13,050 --> 00:35:07,390
side by side in a third party group all

767
00:35:16,470 --> 00:35:13,060
the time and so you know number one

768
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:16,480
there is potentially a big explanation

769
00:35:21,870 --> 00:35:19,330
for what you just pointed out so it can

770
00:35:24,060 --> 00:35:21,880
be confusing if you're outside this

771
00:35:25,530 --> 00:35:24,070
whole perspective you know well how come

772
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:25,540
these guys are working the same place

773
00:35:29,550 --> 00:35:27,730
they must be in cahoots and that might

774
00:35:33,420 --> 00:35:29,560
not have been the case it might have

775
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:33,430
been that you have Group A and Group B

776
00:35:41,190 --> 00:35:36,450
okay let's say they want to infiltrate

777
00:35:45,450 --> 00:35:41,200
the FBI now then when I say infiltrate

778
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:45,460
they just want their guys to kind of be

779
00:35:49,250 --> 00:35:47,530
in the whole mix there and maybe move up

780
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:49,260
the management structure right

781
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:51,130
eventually some point have some

782
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:53,130
influence over the FBI well group a

783
00:35:58,050 --> 00:35:55,810
recruits their young recruits their

784
00:35:59,460 --> 00:35:58,060
young candidates and you know they get

785
00:36:02,130 --> 00:35:59,470
them to apply and they get them to

786
00:36:04,590 --> 00:36:02,140
become agents and they help their career

787
00:36:07,350 --> 00:36:04,600
where they can now during the course of

788
00:36:08,880 --> 00:36:07,360
the day the duty day these people you

789
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:08,890
know and let's say Group B does

790
00:36:11,790 --> 00:36:10,450
same thing in Group A and B oppose each

791
00:36:13,830 --> 00:36:11,800
other but they each have their own young

792
00:36:17,730 --> 00:36:13,840
folks becoming FBI agents okay

793
00:36:20,580 --> 00:36:17,740
now during the day their Duty day these

794
00:36:23,040 --> 00:36:20,590
agents who each respectively represent

795
00:36:25,530 --> 00:36:23,050
who they are Group B they are FBI agents

796
00:36:27,410 --> 00:36:25,540
and they go about their duties in an

797
00:36:29,700 --> 00:36:27,420
honest way they're legitimately

798
00:36:32,460 --> 00:36:29,710
following the law and they're doing what

799
00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:32,470
FBI agents do and such right but behind

800
00:36:38,540 --> 00:36:35,530
them is this group from which they've

801
00:36:41,490 --> 00:36:38,550
been you know recruited to become an FBI

802
00:36:43,500 --> 00:36:41,500
agent and wherever they hop around in

803
00:36:45,720 --> 00:36:43,510
their career be at the FBI be at the

804
00:36:49,230 --> 00:36:45,730
military whatever you know and it's a CI

805
00:36:53,310 --> 00:36:49,240
or whatever they are still group days

806
00:36:56,700 --> 00:36:53,320
boy or group B's boy okay they're not

807
00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:56,710
being traitors they're not telling

808
00:37:01,290 --> 00:36:58,810
secrets they shouldn't tell they just

809
00:37:03,420 --> 00:37:01,300
have that association now Group A and

810
00:37:05,580 --> 00:37:03,430
Group B oppose each other they might

811
00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:05,590
each have their boys their respective

812
00:37:11,340 --> 00:37:09,490
agents on the same squad working bank

813
00:37:15,570 --> 00:37:11,350
robberies or working national security

814
00:37:17,490 --> 00:37:15,580
or whatever on the same squad you know

815
00:37:18,750 --> 00:37:17,500
from opposing factions but in the course

816
00:37:21,090 --> 00:37:18,760
of their duties they're doing for the

817
00:37:22,530 --> 00:37:21,100
FBI their overt duties they're doing it

818
00:37:25,470 --> 00:37:22,540
right they're doing it legally they're

819
00:37:28,290 --> 00:37:25,480
doing it right yet they're still

820
00:37:30,060 --> 00:37:28,300
associated with different factions to

821
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:30,070
what degree they're each you know these

822
00:37:36,690 --> 00:37:32,410
agent representatives would be aware

823
00:37:39,450 --> 00:37:36,700
that they were really you know recruited

824
00:37:41,970 --> 00:37:39,460
by these groups that differs but what

825
00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:41,980
I'm saying is yeah I'm going to say that

826
00:37:46,860 --> 00:37:43,900
goes on a lot more than people would

827
00:37:50,430 --> 00:37:46,870
realize and that could explain why you

828
00:37:52,770 --> 00:37:50,440
have John G Trump the same plays in

829
00:37:53,370 --> 00:37:52,780
Vannevar Bush and whoever else you know

830
00:37:55,950 --> 00:37:53,380
yeah

831
00:37:59,700 --> 00:37:55,960
the other issue here's the contention I

832
00:38:02,520 --> 00:37:59,710
have with my own theory if this 19:03

833
00:38:04,890 --> 00:38:02,530
broke away had this technology where the

834
00:38:07,230 --> 00:38:04,900
heck were they during the world wars

835
00:38:10,380 --> 00:38:07,240
true we really could have used them

836
00:38:12,270 --> 00:38:10,390
during World War two especially and I of

837
00:38:15,600 --> 00:38:12,280
course argued that nimza being behind

838
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:15,610
the Nazis you know nimza was the real

839
00:38:19,710 --> 00:38:19,090
big enemy as well as the Nazis in World

840
00:38:22,620 --> 00:38:19,720
War two

841
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:22,630
where was this 1903 well in my opinion

842
00:38:28,410 --> 00:38:25,210
the answer to that was they had just

843
00:38:32,759 --> 00:38:28,420
broken away in 1903 the Prussian nimza

844
00:38:35,279 --> 00:38:32,769
had 70 or 80 years on them okay when the

845
00:38:38,039 --> 00:38:35,289
1903 breaks away they still had to

846
00:38:40,980 --> 00:38:38,049
develop themselves and their technology

847
00:38:44,789 --> 00:38:40,990
and make their things stronger this is

848
00:38:47,549 --> 00:38:44,799
why I argue that they emerged you know

849
00:38:51,809 --> 00:38:47,559
around 2015 in our political process

850
00:38:54,839 --> 00:38:51,819
because they finally could I argue that

851
00:38:57,539 --> 00:38:54,849
this is when they finally stood up and

852
00:39:02,160 --> 00:38:57,549
said we're here and we're here to play

853
00:39:05,759 --> 00:39:02,170
hard and that kind of took the ninja by

854
00:39:07,859 --> 00:39:05,769
surprise so that too could explain how

855
00:39:10,769 --> 00:39:07,869
you have a guy like John Trump if he's

856
00:39:13,980 --> 00:39:10,779
affiliated with the 1903 working in the

857
00:39:15,950 --> 00:39:13,990
same places as these guys who we know

858
00:39:19,650 --> 00:39:15,960
we're military industrial complex

859
00:39:24,390 --> 00:39:19,660
associated Neal on neo-nazi associated

860
00:39:26,819 --> 00:39:24,400
nimza associated okay because 1903 was

861
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:26,829
developing itself and so think about it

862
00:39:32,339 --> 00:39:29,170
you get your agents your double agents

863
00:39:34,289 --> 00:39:32,349
into Westinghouse or excuse me Bell Labs

864
00:39:35,849 --> 00:39:34,299
or you know you get them into the

865
00:39:39,329 --> 00:39:35,859
military-industrial complex

866
00:39:40,799 --> 00:39:39,339
to see what they're developing because

867
00:39:42,450 --> 00:39:40,809
you know it's my contention that our

868
00:39:44,309 --> 00:39:42,460
military-industrial complex

869
00:39:47,009 --> 00:39:44,319
obviously with its Operation Paperclip

870
00:39:49,259 --> 00:39:47,019
Nazi history in its foundation right I

871
00:39:51,990 --> 00:39:49,269
argue that that's an Enzo

872
00:39:54,029 --> 00:39:52,000
okay anywhere you see post-world War two

873
00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:54,039
Nazi military-industrial complex

874
00:39:59,339 --> 00:39:56,890
that's just thrown in on there in the

875
00:40:01,620 --> 00:39:59,349
background so naturally if the 1903 is

876
00:40:04,650 --> 00:40:01,630
trying to build itself up to be able to

877
00:40:06,599 --> 00:40:04,660
match the nimza and you know come at

878
00:40:09,839 --> 00:40:06,609
them well they're going to put their

879
00:40:11,849 --> 00:40:09,849
guys as close to what nimza is doing in

880
00:40:14,759 --> 00:40:11,859
this military-industrial complex

881
00:40:16,529 --> 00:40:14,769
okay so that they can kind of do a

882
00:40:19,529 --> 00:40:16,539
little corporate espionage so to speak

883
00:40:22,650 --> 00:40:19,539
and what they're doing so that they can

884
00:40:25,079 --> 00:40:22,660
tailor their own development so that's

885
00:40:27,539 --> 00:40:25,089
the best explanation I'd come up with so

886
00:40:29,460 --> 00:40:27,549
far for the question where were these

887
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:29,470
guys during the world wars when we could

888
00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:31,930
have used them they just weren't able to

889
00:40:38,670 --> 00:40:36,490
take on nimza and the Nazis Wow not

890
00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:38,680
man you make a really compelling case

891
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:40,450
and of course counterintelligence is

892
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:42,850
your expertise so we have to strongly

893
00:40:47,940 --> 00:40:45,369
consider the way you break this down the

894
00:40:50,490 --> 00:40:47,950
way you see it and I wanted to throw on

895
00:40:53,070 --> 00:40:50,500
a couple added elements to the del Chou

896
00:40:56,280 --> 00:40:53,080
drawing that reads Trump because it is

897
00:40:58,770 --> 00:40:56,290
so eerily similar to the way they stamp

898
00:41:02,130 --> 00:40:58,780
Trump right across Trump Tower it's

899
00:41:04,590 --> 00:41:02,140
right in the very top similar type font

900
00:41:07,350 --> 00:41:04,600
I mean there's just a real synchronicity

901
00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:07,360
in the way it's displayed and what is

902
00:41:10,620 --> 00:41:08,650
the deal with these Trump's they've just

903
00:41:12,330 --> 00:41:10,630
got to stamp their name on everything

904
00:41:15,930 --> 00:41:12,340
that seems to be something that's part

905
00:41:19,109 --> 00:41:15,940
of their DNA and also another

906
00:41:22,020 --> 00:41:19,119
synchronicity that it's just too wild to

907
00:41:24,690 --> 00:41:22,030
believe almost but this particular photo

908
00:41:27,930 --> 00:41:24,700
is in Delhi series 4500 if I'm not

909
00:41:32,010 --> 00:41:27,940
mistaken it is and Trump's the 45th

910
00:41:34,140 --> 00:41:32,020
president ain't that interesting right

911
00:41:36,390 --> 00:41:34,150
that's a whole conversation right there

912
00:41:38,880 --> 00:41:36,400
Gregg that has to do with the number

913
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:38,890
nine and that's a whole conversation and

914
00:41:44,370 --> 00:41:42,130
I am not surprised you know I was aware

915
00:41:47,010 --> 00:41:44,380
that the whole election that whoever

916
00:41:48,660 --> 00:41:47,020
would win would be the 45th president

917
00:41:50,910 --> 00:41:48,670
and just with the nine thing alone and

918
00:41:52,530 --> 00:41:50,920
the fact when Stephen Romano pointed

919
00:41:55,530 --> 00:41:52,540
those plates out to me and it's in the

920
00:41:57,960 --> 00:41:55,540
4500 series I laughed out loud because I

921
00:41:59,400 --> 00:41:57,970
said well of course now to go back to

922
00:42:03,210 --> 00:41:59,410
the name I want you to think about

923
00:42:05,609 --> 00:42:03,220
something think of the esoteric magical

924
00:42:09,270 --> 00:42:05,619
implications of that name okay the name

925
00:42:11,790 --> 00:42:09,280
of Trump okay I ask you what did Donald

926
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:11,800
Trump do in the primaries what did he do

927
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:13,570
to Hillary Clinton what did he do to all

928
00:42:18,750 --> 00:42:16,210
of them he clumped them just like in the

929
00:42:21,150 --> 00:42:18,760
card game and we used the term trumping

930
00:42:24,990 --> 00:42:21,160
and it's been used for years as kind of

931
00:42:26,970 --> 00:42:25,000
a euphemism for I whip your ass yeah so

932
00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:26,980
think about it you got this guy his

933
00:42:32,250 --> 00:42:29,530
name's Trump so when you plaster that

934
00:42:36,030 --> 00:42:32,260
name on your stuff you're bringing the

935
00:42:37,230 --> 00:42:36,040
power of that concept okay this is magic

936
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:37,240
this is a form of magic it's

937
00:42:42,650 --> 00:42:39,490
psychological yeah but it works you're

938
00:42:45,480 --> 00:42:42,660
saying boom I'm trumping you I Trump you

939
00:42:48,330 --> 00:42:45,490
right and so when you see my name in all

940
00:42:49,380 --> 00:42:48,340
caps and red letters of gold and boom

941
00:42:50,370 --> 00:42:49,390
there it is

942
00:42:52,530 --> 00:42:50,380
basically

943
00:42:54,750 --> 00:42:52,540
saying whatever you can do I will do

944
00:42:57,930 --> 00:42:54,760
better in a whoop your ass proving it

945
00:42:59,400 --> 00:42:57,940
and to me there is why when you say

946
00:43:00,930 --> 00:42:59,410
what's up with these guys you know I

947
00:43:03,720 --> 00:43:00,940
would venture to say if we each had a

948
00:43:05,790 --> 00:43:03,730
name like that we might use it the same

949
00:43:08,460 --> 00:43:05,800
way I mean my first name when I was a

950
00:43:12,510 --> 00:43:08,470
kid and learned what Walter means strong

951
00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:12,520
ruler Varney oh hell yeah I love that I

952
00:43:18,360 --> 00:43:15,130
have fun with that all the time that's

953
00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:18,370
why I don't go by Walt or Wally I go by

954
00:43:26,070 --> 00:43:21,850
Walter because it's that strong strong

955
00:43:28,620 --> 00:43:26,080
role of army so it's the same thing and

956
00:43:31,440 --> 00:43:28,630
I think that's why Donald does it you

957
00:43:34,590 --> 00:43:31,450
know on his down the car and then you

958
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:34,600
know look we live in an era where we

959
00:43:42,030 --> 00:43:38,890
demonize healthy ego even we demonize

960
00:43:45,690 --> 00:43:42,040
healthy aggression you know we want to

961
00:43:48,300 --> 00:43:45,700
take the teeth in the musculature off of

962
00:43:52,170 --> 00:43:48,310
the males in our society okay we want to

963
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:52,180
neuter them make them gentle but nature

964
00:43:55,380 --> 00:43:52,930
says otherwise

965
00:43:58,860 --> 00:43:55,390
now I don't advocate running around

966
00:44:03,320 --> 00:43:58,870
being a brute okay bullies everybody in

967
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:03,330
such blah blah blah but it's this whole

968
00:44:11,100 --> 00:44:06,160
there is healthy ego there is you know

969
00:44:14,610 --> 00:44:11,110
just healthy rah rah you know the thing

970
00:44:16,950 --> 00:44:14,620
that had been very productive in a

971
00:44:18,990 --> 00:44:16,960
positive way but we live in a time where

972
00:44:20,820 --> 00:44:19,000
we're supposed to deny that be polite

973
00:44:22,860 --> 00:44:20,830
and deny that well you know my view is

974
00:44:24,990 --> 00:44:22,870
I'm almost 54 years old I gave up on

975
00:44:28,950 --> 00:44:25,000
that polite crap years ago because I see

976
00:44:30,930 --> 00:44:28,960
I will not be murdered fair enough man

977
00:44:33,210 --> 00:44:30,940
that's a mind frame that you know

978
00:44:35,070 --> 00:44:33,220
there's other guys that learn it early

979
00:44:37,740 --> 00:44:35,080
on yeah you're not going to neuter me

980
00:44:41,580 --> 00:44:37,750
and look what I can accomplish and you

981
00:44:43,860 --> 00:44:41,590
know that's kind of my mindset I also

982
00:44:45,870 --> 00:44:43,870
wanted to throw in a couple of elements

983
00:44:48,690 --> 00:44:45,880
of Internet speculation here with this

984
00:44:51,090 --> 00:44:48,700
Trump saga but in several situations

985
00:44:53,100 --> 00:44:51,100
we've seen fiction that mirrors real

986
00:44:54,450 --> 00:44:53,110
events and real covert projects one

987
00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:54,460
well-known example would be the book

988
00:44:58,410 --> 00:44:56,530
about the mighty ship the Titan and it's

989
00:45:00,750 --> 00:44:58,420
crashed in the iceberg written fourteen

990
00:45:03,240 --> 00:45:00,760
years before the Titanic saga yeah well

991
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:03,250
a parallel theme comes up in this saga

992
00:45:08,010 --> 00:45:04,690
too and I'm curious to get your thoughts

993
00:45:10,260 --> 00:45:08,020
on it because in 1893 right in the heart

994
00:45:13,110 --> 00:45:10,270
of all this stuff a woman living in New

995
00:45:15,030 --> 00:45:13,120
York named Inger Sol Lockwood wrote a

996
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:15,040
book called Baron Trump's marvelous

997
00:45:18,630 --> 00:45:17,170
underground journey where this boy goes

998
00:45:21,240 --> 00:45:18,640
down into the Inner Earth through a

999
00:45:23,880 --> 00:45:21,250
tunnel in Russia the same author also

1000
00:45:25,950 --> 00:45:23,890
wrote several other books in this barren

1001
00:45:29,010 --> 00:45:25,960
Trump series including one called the

1002
00:45:31,500 --> 00:45:29,020
last president which describes severely

1003
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:31,510
polarized American crowds rioting and

1004
00:45:36,120 --> 00:45:34,090
the riots start at a hotel on Fifth

1005
00:45:37,890 --> 00:45:36,130
Avenue could that be Trump Tower now to

1006
00:45:40,260 --> 00:45:37,900
add icing on this cake the book

1007
00:45:42,630 --> 00:45:40,270
describes the riots starting on the day

1008
00:45:46,080 --> 00:45:42,640
of November 3rd which just so happens to

1009
00:45:48,870 --> 00:45:46,090
fall on the next election day in 2020 so

1010
00:45:51,630 --> 00:45:48,880
if the German last name of the 45th

1011
00:45:53,970 --> 00:45:51,640
president appears in series 4,500 of the

1012
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:53,980
secret German airship drawings what the

1013
00:46:01,890 --> 00:45:57,330
hell is going on with this book series

1014
00:46:03,150 --> 00:46:01,900
isn't that extremely delightful I love

1015
00:46:07,380 --> 00:46:03,160
this kind of stuff

1016
00:46:10,890 --> 00:46:07,390
look there is most definitely something

1017
00:46:14,190 --> 00:46:10,900
going on what it is exactly I couldn't

1018
00:46:17,810 --> 00:46:14,200
tell you the whole thing I will say the

1019
00:46:21,420 --> 00:46:17,820
reason I am convinced of this is

1020
00:46:23,730 --> 00:46:21,430
personally is do two things that I

1021
00:46:27,710 --> 00:46:23,740
personally stumbled upon for myself

1022
00:46:30,750 --> 00:46:27,720
years ago and that has to do with why I

1023
00:46:32,580 --> 00:46:30,760
wrote a now I found the threads to pull

1024
00:46:34,260 --> 00:46:32,590
in the Empire the wheel books that I've

1025
00:46:37,710 --> 00:46:34,270
written and really and everything I've

1026
00:46:40,410 --> 00:46:37,720
read but I don't have enough to you know

1027
00:46:42,030 --> 00:46:40,420
go forward and say completely why I'm

1028
00:46:43,770 --> 00:46:42,040
convinced there's something going on but

1029
00:46:45,990 --> 00:46:43,780
this kind of thing we're talking about

1030
00:46:49,410 --> 00:46:46,000
these ingersoll-rand books are just a

1031
00:46:52,100 --> 00:46:49,420
tiny example of the kinds of things that

1032
00:46:54,720 --> 00:46:52,110
are out there some people have suggested

1033
00:46:56,460 --> 00:46:54,730
time travel okay

1034
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:56,470
you know like there's some time-travel

1035
00:47:03,390 --> 00:46:58,810
machine and on and on so forth you know

1036
00:47:05,460 --> 00:47:03,400
I don't lean towards that I do for grins

1037
00:47:10,050 --> 00:47:05,470
and chuckles entertain the possibility

1038
00:47:13,410 --> 00:47:10,060
that you know looking three times within

1039
00:47:14,790 --> 00:47:13,420
a remote viewing context you know well

1040
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:14,800
maybe there's something like that going

1041
00:47:19,500 --> 00:47:17,650
on but indeed at first when I heard this

1042
00:47:22,500 --> 00:47:19,510
I thought all these books can't be real

1043
00:47:24,900 --> 00:47:22,510
this yeah no pun intended trumped-up I

1044
00:47:26,340 --> 00:47:24,910
had to buy one did you get one yeah I

1045
00:47:28,710 --> 00:47:26,350
bought a physical copy because I

1046
00:47:30,720 --> 00:47:28,720
couldn't believe it and it's real right

1047
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:30,730
oh it's real yeah that's my

1048
00:47:35,609 --> 00:47:33,130
understanding - that is real well it

1049
00:47:37,109 --> 00:47:35,619
could be let's have fun with this let's

1050
00:47:39,599 --> 00:47:37,119
look from the remote viewing perspective

1051
00:47:42,930 --> 00:47:39,609
you know by no means was remote viewing

1052
00:47:46,170 --> 00:47:42,940
the basic concept of it non-existent

1053
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:46,180
before the SSRI guys did it for the male

1054
00:47:49,680 --> 00:47:46,810
famous

1055
00:47:52,020 --> 00:47:49,690
army operation remote viewing and it's

1056
00:47:57,300 --> 00:47:52,030
concept has been going on since humans

1057
00:48:01,320 --> 00:47:57,310
began I would say maybe these guys were

1058
00:48:06,450 --> 00:48:01,330
able to remote view across time I don't

1059
00:48:10,020 --> 00:48:06,460
know or maybe they understood something

1060
00:48:12,810 --> 00:48:10,030
about the mathematics of reality the

1061
00:48:16,620 --> 00:48:12,820
fabric of reality and how certain

1062
00:48:17,940 --> 00:48:16,630
numbers are indicators of destinies and

1063
00:48:21,240 --> 00:48:17,950
fates okay

1064
00:48:23,849 --> 00:48:21,250
and maybe they understood how to put the

1065
00:48:25,980 --> 00:48:23,859
pins so to speak in the fabric of

1066
00:48:28,500 --> 00:48:25,990
reality can cause the ripples down the

1067
00:48:30,870 --> 00:48:28,510
line now I'm getting you know some very

1068
00:48:33,150 --> 00:48:30,880
esoteric things here but maybe they

1069
00:48:35,340 --> 00:48:33,160
understood how to manipulate that now

1070
00:48:37,620 --> 00:48:35,350
there is this concept I was introduced

1071
00:48:38,460 --> 00:48:37,630
to it by Setia a and forgive me I can't

1072
00:48:40,590 --> 00:48:38,470
remember the name of the guy who

1073
00:48:44,010 --> 00:48:40,600
originated it that he got it from but

1074
00:48:46,170 --> 00:48:44,020
there's this concept of the let me see

1075
00:48:49,070 --> 00:48:46,180
if I get this right yep the axis of

1076
00:48:53,130 --> 00:48:49,080
circumstance and the vector of desire

1077
00:48:55,859 --> 00:48:53,140
okay now Setia reads interpretation that

1078
00:48:58,260 --> 00:48:55,869
we have discussed a great length

1079
00:48:59,880 --> 00:48:58,270
is that you have this axis of

1080
00:49:02,280 --> 00:48:59,890
circumstances or all the lines of the

1081
00:49:03,750 --> 00:49:02,290
factors of your personal life that are

1082
00:49:05,700 --> 00:49:03,760
out of your control like who your

1083
00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:05,710
parents are like you know when you were

1084
00:49:09,900 --> 00:49:07,930
a kid where they had you live

1085
00:49:11,130 --> 00:49:09,910
things like that right and the things in

1086
00:49:12,390 --> 00:49:11,140
the greater world out there that you

1087
00:49:15,870 --> 00:49:12,400
don't control those are the

1088
00:49:18,660 --> 00:49:15,880
circumstances with which in your life

1089
00:49:23,180 --> 00:49:18,670
you have to deal with the vector of

1090
00:49:26,190 --> 00:49:23,190
desire is the degree to which your will

1091
00:49:29,940 --> 00:49:26,200
affects your life within the context of

1092
00:49:33,330 --> 00:49:29,950
those circumstances now maybe somebody

1093
00:49:35,730 --> 00:49:33,340
in Trump's family past understood

1094
00:49:40,620 --> 00:49:35,740
something about that vector of desire

1095
00:49:43,710 --> 00:49:40,630
and how it could affect or alter or set

1096
00:49:47,160 --> 00:49:43,720
that axis of circumstances for someone

1097
00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:47,170
down their line okay now we're getting

1098
00:49:51,300 --> 00:49:48,970
into weird stuff because quite frankly

1099
00:49:55,500 --> 00:49:51,310
the existence of that book is damn weird

1100
00:49:57,390 --> 00:49:55,510
okay so it demands that we get weird and

1101
00:50:00,450 --> 00:49:57,400
get way outside the box on that

1102
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:00,460
speculative Lin what do I think is going

1103
00:50:06,270 --> 00:50:03,930
on I'm not quite sure but I am certain

1104
00:50:08,850 --> 00:50:06,280
something's going on there right

1105
00:50:12,570 --> 00:50:08,860
something going on there and I think

1106
00:50:15,060 --> 00:50:12,580
that it involves the true story of the

1107
00:50:16,500 --> 00:50:15,070
20th century the true great mystery of

1108
00:50:18,900 --> 00:50:16,510
our times you know all these people say

1109
00:50:21,060 --> 00:50:18,910
you know UFOs the greatest mystery of

1110
00:50:23,690 --> 00:50:21,070
our time please give me a break the

1111
00:50:27,360 --> 00:50:23,700
mystery of the UFO is a subset of

1112
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:27,370
something bigger right okay Burton a UFO

1113
00:50:31,740 --> 00:50:30,130
is not the big deal folks let me valet

1114
00:50:34,080 --> 00:50:31,750
said that that's not original with me

1115
00:50:36,540 --> 00:50:34,090
that UFOs I think he said that UFOs are

1116
00:50:38,340 --> 00:50:36,550
a subset of something larger the whole

1117
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,350
extraterrestrial thing that's just a

1118
00:50:42,300 --> 00:50:40,480
subset folks that's not the end-all

1119
00:50:43,730 --> 00:50:42,310
be-all answer to what we're talking

1120
00:50:46,860 --> 00:50:43,740
about here we're talking about

1121
00:50:50,760 --> 00:50:46,870
something's been going on specifically

1122
00:50:53,610 --> 00:50:50,770
for the last hundred and twenty hundred

1123
00:50:58,140 --> 00:50:53,620
and fifty years something's been going

1124
00:51:00,360 --> 00:50:58,150
on that you can catch glimpses of when

1125
00:51:05,490 --> 00:51:00,370
you really look close at the fabric of

1126
00:51:08,490 --> 00:51:05,500
reality and it's elusive and it just

1127
00:51:10,140 --> 00:51:08,500
hasn't really it's elusive for a reason

1128
00:51:12,180 --> 00:51:10,150
and that's because I think the way

1129
00:51:15,260 --> 00:51:12,190
things work and somebody has figured out

1130
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:15,270
how to manipulate it and as I argue

1131
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:17,410
usually when I'm being critical of

1132
00:51:21,700 --> 00:51:19,330
quarry building Wilcock and all these

1133
00:51:24,370 --> 00:51:21,710
alleged whistleblowers look

1134
00:51:26,470 --> 00:51:24,380
argue if you've figured out how to

1135
00:51:29,800 --> 00:51:26,480
travel through time or influence time or

1136
00:51:32,980 --> 00:51:29,810
whatever I argue that you're likely

1137
00:51:35,740 --> 00:51:32,990
going to consider not blabbing it not

1138
00:51:38,890 --> 00:51:35,750
going on a damn radio show like whatever

1139
00:51:41,230 --> 00:51:38,900
not this one of course and saying I'm a

1140
00:51:43,060 --> 00:51:41,240
time traveler I mean that's why I raised

1141
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:43,070
the BS flag on those guys first of all

1142
00:51:46,540 --> 00:51:44,810
if it were true they would have been

1143
00:51:47,770 --> 00:51:46,550
silenced before they got to that point

1144
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:47,780
where they would have been silenced

1145
00:51:52,300 --> 00:51:49,609
after the very first time they were in

1146
00:51:55,000 --> 00:51:52,310
their mouths like that okay I don't care

1147
00:51:58,270 --> 00:51:55,010
what they say or what their advocates

1148
00:52:01,089 --> 00:51:58,280
used to argue my point is somebody for

1149
00:52:04,000 --> 00:52:01,099
the last hundred years or so has really

1150
00:52:06,099 --> 00:52:04,010
figured out how to send ripple down the

1151
00:52:09,660 --> 00:52:06,109
line a time in space and they've been

1152
00:52:14,589 --> 00:52:09,670
messing with that and it's a deep deep

1153
00:52:16,480 --> 00:52:14,599
secret yeah man I agree for sure and I

1154
00:52:18,370 --> 00:52:16,490
wanted to get back to your work

1155
00:52:20,260 --> 00:52:18,380
specifically too but the last thing I

1156
00:52:22,540 --> 00:52:20,270
wanted to say about this is that the

1157
00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:22,550
writer of Back to the Future has also

1158
00:52:27,190 --> 00:52:25,130
clearly stated that Biff Tannen is based

1159
00:52:30,160 --> 00:52:27,200
on Donald Trump and it's probably the

1160
00:52:32,410 --> 00:52:30,170
most famous time travel movie in history

1161
00:52:34,089 --> 00:52:32,420
our most famous time travel series in

1162
00:52:36,099 --> 00:52:34,099
history and that's a pretty interesting

1163
00:52:38,770 --> 00:52:36,109
coincidence too when you think about it

1164
00:52:40,599 --> 00:52:38,780
okay my question and I understand the

1165
00:52:42,940 --> 00:52:40,609
whole thing about this and now what he

1166
00:52:44,380 --> 00:52:42,950
becomes in the second one my favorite

1167
00:52:46,660 --> 00:52:44,390
one of those is the third one by the way

1168
00:52:48,700 --> 00:52:46,670
oh gee it's in the Old West and it

1169
00:52:52,470 --> 00:52:48,710
retrospectively kind of feels like the

1170
00:52:56,050 --> 00:52:52,480
whole Senora cavero right but anyway was

1171
00:52:58,720 --> 00:52:56,060
the writer of that saying this before

1172
00:53:00,790 --> 00:52:58,730
the whole Trump became president era or

1173
00:53:03,640 --> 00:53:00,800
is this been something he said after

1174
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:03,650
that I do think it's something that he

1175
00:53:07,450 --> 00:53:04,490
said

1176
00:53:10,210 --> 00:53:07,460
I mean it's maybe slightly before the

1177
00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:10,220
election time but I think there's some

1178
00:53:13,690 --> 00:53:11,570
similarities if you look at their

1179
00:53:14,050 --> 00:53:13,700
hairstyles for sure if you look at the

1180
00:53:16,750 --> 00:53:14,060
fatter

1181
00:53:19,329 --> 00:53:16,760
Biff was a casino guy right in the movie

1182
00:53:22,420 --> 00:53:19,339
he has like a big Trump like a so that's

1183
00:53:24,730 --> 00:53:22,430
why I'm curious because if this what

1184
00:53:26,829 --> 00:53:24,740
he's saying predates Trump becoming

1185
00:53:29,170 --> 00:53:26,839
president then that does indeed make

1186
00:53:31,870 --> 00:53:29,180
that whole development of those three

1187
00:53:33,880 --> 00:53:31,880
films all the more interesting he could

1188
00:53:35,259 --> 00:53:33,890
be trying to capitalize you know just on

1189
00:53:37,329 --> 00:53:35,269
a popular

1190
00:53:39,519 --> 00:53:37,339
cultural motif you know you can't rule

1191
00:53:41,949 --> 00:53:39,529
that out for sure but when you add those

1192
00:53:43,479 --> 00:53:41,959
elements of the hairstyle the attitude

1193
00:53:45,759 --> 00:53:43,489
in general the fact that he has the

1194
00:53:48,519 --> 00:53:45,769
casinos and the fact that he has that

1195
00:53:51,069 --> 00:53:48,529
painting of himself above his desk

1196
00:53:52,899 --> 00:53:51,079
that's a very Trump type of thing so I'm

1197
00:53:56,019 --> 00:53:52,909
gonna give it to him I think well I'm

1198
00:53:58,389 --> 00:53:56,029
gonna be having it's interesting hanging

1199
00:54:01,299 --> 00:53:58,399
in the hall in my mom's house our photo

1200
00:54:05,229 --> 00:54:01,309
portraits of my sisters and I okay when

1201
00:54:07,779 --> 00:54:05,239
I had mine done I had it put on a larger

1202
00:54:10,269 --> 00:54:07,789
it's the largest picture of all of them

1203
00:54:13,839 --> 00:54:10,279
in her Hall it's mounted on you know

1204
00:54:16,479 --> 00:54:13,849
like gaya' oh not a picture frame but

1205
00:54:19,569 --> 00:54:16,489
when you get your pictures I'm sorry

1206
00:54:22,179 --> 00:54:19,579
it's my 53 year old mind I guess anyway

1207
00:54:24,489 --> 00:54:22,189
you know I did it as a goof and it's

1208
00:54:26,319 --> 00:54:24,499
placed I what I did was when I hung it

1209
00:54:28,659 --> 00:54:26,329
in the hall it hangs higher than all the

1210
00:54:30,339 --> 00:54:28,669
other photos right that's what you get

1211
00:54:33,189 --> 00:54:30,349
with the only boy in the family named

1212
00:54:36,309 --> 00:54:33,199
Walter of all me and I'm going to be

1213
00:54:39,459 --> 00:54:36,319
having another large kind of portrait

1214
00:54:42,159 --> 00:54:39,469
size done from my official book cover

1215
00:54:44,049 --> 00:54:42,169
authors photo done and I do these things

1216
00:54:46,689 --> 00:54:44,059
kind of halfway you know really as a

1217
00:54:48,429 --> 00:54:46,699
goof I even was joking with my sister

1218
00:54:51,009 --> 00:54:48,439
there's a place online where you can get

1219
00:54:52,449 --> 00:54:51,019
a bust made of yourself oh right oh

1220
00:54:56,620 --> 00:54:52,459
that's going to be the Christmas present

1221
00:54:58,569 --> 00:54:56,630
for everybody oh yeah yeah I totally get

1222
00:55:01,359 --> 00:54:58,579
you I did the same thing in high school

1223
00:55:04,209 --> 00:55:01,369
I got my mom a cardboard cutout of

1224
00:55:07,989 --> 00:55:04,219
myself and I got my dad a tie with my

1225
00:55:10,929 --> 00:55:07,999
picture all over it so they I get the

1226
00:55:12,489 --> 00:55:10,939
appeal um yeah that's part of it is that

1227
00:55:13,809 --> 00:55:12,499
boyish man and you know when you're

1228
00:55:15,969 --> 00:55:13,819
talking about a guy like Trump you know

1229
00:55:17,559 --> 00:55:15,979
look wait look I know they say oh he's

1230
00:55:19,599 --> 00:55:17,569
done all these bankruptcies well let me

1231
00:55:21,309 --> 00:55:19,609
tell you something he's made a hell a

1232
00:55:24,579 --> 00:55:21,319
lot more money than I ever had or

1233
00:55:26,349 --> 00:55:24,589
probably ever will you know so right you

1234
00:55:28,509 --> 00:55:26,359
gotta let roosters crow a little bit

1235
00:55:30,370 --> 00:55:28,519
it's funny how and again not in

1236
00:55:32,289 --> 00:55:30,380
political discussion but it's funny how

1237
00:55:33,909 --> 00:55:32,299
when it's your own rooster you let them

1238
00:55:35,349 --> 00:55:33,919
crow and sing all day when it's the

1239
00:55:38,109 --> 00:55:35,359
other guy's rooster you wanted to shut

1240
00:55:40,479 --> 00:55:38,119
the hell up right you know fair enough

1241
00:55:41,829 --> 00:55:40,489
both sides do this both sides do this

1242
00:55:44,199 --> 00:55:41,839
what's really going on people is

1243
00:55:46,899 --> 00:55:44,209
political magic okay where we're being

1244
00:55:48,640 --> 00:55:46,909
divided for a reason because they don't

1245
00:55:51,609 --> 00:55:48,650
want us really coming to get

1246
00:55:54,309 --> 00:55:51,619
that is true I'll side with you on that

1247
00:55:56,559 --> 00:55:54,319
for sure and I definitely also agree

1248
00:55:58,809 --> 00:55:56,569
with you about the use of healthy ego

1249
00:56:01,109 --> 00:55:58,819
especially humor in regards to that too

1250
00:56:03,970 --> 00:56:01,119
but I guess I would probably just say

1251
00:56:05,650 --> 00:56:03,980
for my own clarity that I probably split

1252
00:56:08,170 --> 00:56:05,660
with you in thinking that you know

1253
00:56:10,870 --> 00:56:08,180
Trump's motivations for his ego

1254
00:56:13,410 --> 00:56:10,880
inflation are the same as mine were in

1255
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:13,420
that day or what I would consider to be

1256
00:56:18,069 --> 00:56:16,130
something that's healthy but that's just

1257
00:56:20,349 --> 00:56:18,079
my opinion I definitely agree with you

1258
00:56:22,539 --> 00:56:20,359
also that they are working to divide us

1259
00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:22,549
and that's probably the bigger issue but

1260
00:56:26,349 --> 00:56:24,410
I also wanted to switch gears a little

1261
00:56:27,640 --> 00:56:26,359
bit and get into some other interesting

1262
00:56:30,400 --> 00:56:27,650
things that you've been talking about I

1263
00:56:32,260 --> 00:56:30,410
know a lot of the inside information you

1264
00:56:34,299 --> 00:56:32,270
have seems to come from disclosures you

1265
00:56:35,589 --> 00:56:34,309
got from your father and a mentor that

1266
00:56:38,049 --> 00:56:35,599
you had when you were working for

1267
00:56:40,120 --> 00:56:38,059
military intelligence and since we last

1268
00:56:42,609 --> 00:56:40,130
talked you wrote a book called

1269
00:56:45,010 --> 00:56:42,619
shimmering light lost in an MKULTRA

1270
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:45,020
House of onnu which talks about a

1271
00:56:50,440 --> 00:56:46,970
situation where your father was involved

1272
00:56:52,510 --> 00:56:50,450
in a crashed UFO retrieval in 1958 if I

1273
00:56:55,299 --> 00:56:52,520
have this right he seems to have the

1274
00:56:58,240 --> 00:56:55,309
impression that the pilots weren't alien

1275
00:57:00,490 --> 00:56:58,250
but a branch of humans that broke off

1276
00:57:02,500 --> 00:57:00,500
from humanity in ancient times and

1277
00:57:04,240 --> 00:57:02,510
colonized underground which seems to

1278
00:57:05,440 --> 00:57:04,250
vibe with a lot of the things we've been

1279
00:57:08,049 --> 00:57:05,450
talking about can you tell us a little

1280
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:08,059
more about the story there and how it

1281
00:57:15,130 --> 00:57:12,890
ties in to maybe the larger saga sure to

1282
00:57:17,349 --> 00:57:15,140
better define actually within there

1283
00:57:20,710 --> 00:57:17,359
because it can get confusing okay he

1284
00:57:23,890 --> 00:57:20,720
encountered under the ground humans that

1285
00:57:27,069 --> 00:57:23,900
had gone underground during a surface

1286
00:57:28,839 --> 00:57:27,079
Cataclysm across the planet it is my

1287
00:57:31,930 --> 00:57:28,849
understanding and I hope the book

1288
00:57:35,700 --> 00:57:31,940
conveys this upon reading that the group

1289
00:57:38,500 --> 00:57:35,710
that was the civilization that was

1290
00:57:41,289 --> 00:57:38,510
allegedly flying the thing that crashed

1291
00:57:43,089 --> 00:57:41,299
at Roswell that was specifically a

1292
00:57:44,579 --> 00:57:43,099
different group than the humans he

1293
00:57:49,150 --> 00:57:44,589
encountered that had gone underground

1294
00:57:51,190 --> 00:57:49,160
they were yes really based underground

1295
00:57:55,329 --> 00:57:51,200
this group following the machine but

1296
00:57:58,539 --> 00:57:55,339
they were a group of humans of another

1297
00:58:02,319 --> 00:57:58,549
civilization from another place and

1298
00:58:05,410 --> 00:58:02,329
that's how I get into discussing

1299
00:58:07,719 --> 00:58:05,420
the way to Danann because they may have

1300
00:58:09,759 --> 00:58:07,729
been the group flying the device may

1301
00:58:12,130 --> 00:58:09,769
specifically have been a group of humans

1302
00:58:15,429 --> 00:58:12,140
from some other place off this planet

1303
00:58:18,759 --> 00:58:15,439
outside our world that came here in

1304
00:58:22,390 --> 00:58:18,769
ancient times and I've stayed here and

1305
00:58:23,799 --> 00:58:22,400
influenced human civilization while kind

1306
00:58:25,569 --> 00:58:23,809
of remaining separate from uh sorry I

1307
00:58:27,819 --> 00:58:25,579
should say and I get into this in the

1308
00:58:30,699 --> 00:58:27,829
new book they help develop us for a

1309
00:58:33,069 --> 00:58:30,709
while but then they withdrew and became

1310
00:58:35,380 --> 00:58:33,079
very selective with their encounters

1311
00:58:38,410 --> 00:58:35,390
with us this is all the theory and

1312
00:58:42,400 --> 00:58:38,420
speculation and this matches the lore of

1313
00:58:44,589 --> 00:58:42,410
this group called the tway Eden n I have

1314
00:58:45,880 --> 00:58:44,599
started and I go into this in the book

1315
00:58:48,370 --> 00:58:45,890
I'm not going to try to go into it here

1316
00:58:49,989 --> 00:58:48,380
even put it my thumbnail but I have

1317
00:58:53,620 --> 00:58:49,999
started referring to them as the tway

1318
00:58:55,719 --> 00:58:53,630
Danu and I explained why in the book to

1319
00:58:57,640 --> 00:58:55,729
show the distinction between the

1320
00:59:02,099 --> 00:58:57,650
original group we're talking about and

1321
00:59:06,039 --> 00:59:02,109
their human client tribes or cultures or

1322
00:59:09,459 --> 00:59:06,049
nations that they backed up okay and

1323
00:59:12,459 --> 00:59:09,469
that actually are the ones mostly

1324
00:59:14,739 --> 00:59:12,469
discussed in the Celtic lore and

1325
00:59:16,749 --> 00:59:14,749
histories of what was going on and you

1326
00:59:20,499 --> 00:59:16,759
know prehistoric Europe and on and so

1327
00:59:22,299 --> 00:59:20,509
forth it is the group that came from the

1328
00:59:26,709 --> 00:59:22,309
other world that I called it away the

1329
00:59:29,499 --> 00:59:26,719
new that is in the context of who I

1330
00:59:33,179 --> 00:59:29,509
think and exactly what my dad was

1331
00:59:36,160 --> 00:59:33,189
describing did I confuse the issue more

1332
00:59:37,839 --> 00:59:36,170
no no no because that Celtic lore is

1333
00:59:39,160 --> 00:59:37,849
exactly what I was going to ask you

1334
00:59:40,839 --> 00:59:39,170
about is its connection there because in

1335
00:59:43,059 --> 00:59:40,849
one of your youtube videos you described

1336
00:59:45,819 --> 00:59:43,069
the similarities between these

1337
00:59:48,549 --> 00:59:45,829
quote-unquote alien beings that people

1338
00:59:50,349 --> 00:59:48,559
experience and fairy lore and actually

1339
00:59:53,049 --> 00:59:50,359
some of the technology described in that

1340
00:59:54,849 --> 00:59:53,059
lore matches the kind of shape-shifting

1341
00:59:58,539 --> 00:59:54,859
cloaking technology that's talked about

1342
01:00:01,479 --> 00:59:58,549
in these experiences and I am not the

1343
01:00:04,269 --> 01:00:01,489
first to go there really the first guy

1344
01:00:08,079 --> 01:00:04,279
to go there that I was introduced to

1345
01:00:10,449 --> 01:00:08,089
this concept by was shot in LA yeah you

1346
01:00:13,419 --> 01:00:10,459
know he was famous as a UFO investigator

1347
01:00:16,010 --> 01:00:13,429
in the 60s the 70s and the 80s and into

1348
01:00:18,800 --> 01:00:16,020
the 90s and he

1349
01:00:20,870 --> 01:00:18,810
really began to see this similarity and

1350
01:00:24,080 --> 01:00:20,880
the more he dug into it the more he

1351
01:00:26,500 --> 01:00:24,090
found this group specifically the [\h__\h]

1352
01:00:28,900 --> 01:00:26,510
Anu tweeted an end

1353
01:00:31,190 --> 01:00:28,910
take your pick it's the two way

1354
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:31,200
essentially is the same route that's in

1355
01:00:36,170 --> 01:00:33,930
there and what's interesting is and I'm

1356
01:00:38,810 --> 01:00:36,180
not the only guy to notice this really

1357
01:00:41,840 --> 01:00:38,820
after he reached a point where he began

1358
01:00:44,780 --> 01:00:41,850
to see this similarity between these

1359
01:00:47,330 --> 01:00:44,790
alleged extraterrestrials and the tway

1360
01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:47,340
and the fairy lore and all that he

1361
01:00:53,240 --> 01:00:50,130
really really kind of backed off of

1362
01:00:56,840 --> 01:00:53,250
writing about UFOs and doing so much of

1363
01:00:58,760 --> 01:00:56,850
that and I think that's significant and

1364
01:01:01,400 --> 01:00:58,770
I'm not the only one who's noticed this

1365
01:01:03,230 --> 01:01:01,410
and my understanding from people I know

1366
01:01:05,420 --> 01:01:03,240
who have had very recent you know

1367
01:01:07,880 --> 01:01:05,430
private conversations with him he still

1368
01:01:11,030 --> 01:01:07,890
holds that basic position now that's not

1369
01:01:12,470 --> 01:01:11,040
to say that either he nor I deny the

1370
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:12,480
possibility or the existence of

1371
01:01:16,160 --> 01:01:14,490
extraterrestrials yes of course I think

1372
01:01:18,920 --> 01:01:16,170
this yes of course he things like this

1373
01:01:21,800 --> 01:01:18,930
yes of course they are responsible for a

1374
01:01:25,420 --> 01:01:21,810
certain percentage of UFOs

1375
01:01:28,910 --> 01:01:25,430
so to speak but it cannot be discounted

1376
01:01:31,099 --> 01:01:28,920
the cases and the encounters which

1377
01:01:34,099 --> 01:01:31,109
really reflect more this to a group now

1378
01:01:37,670 --> 01:01:34,109
that said I go into this in my book the

1379
01:01:40,400 --> 01:01:37,680
original roots of this Tway are off this

1380
01:01:41,960 --> 01:01:40,410
planet off our let's say off our reality

1381
01:01:45,320 --> 01:01:41,970
because they're either from another

1382
01:01:51,440 --> 01:01:45,330
planet or another dimension oh boy I

1383
01:01:53,590 --> 01:01:51,450
said it and yes there are things that

1384
01:01:57,560 --> 01:01:53,600
I've come across in my research and

1385
01:02:00,200 --> 01:01:57,570
other things that make me speak of this

1386
01:02:02,660 --> 01:02:00,210
confidently that I know I don't go into

1387
01:02:04,730 --> 01:02:02,670
publicly I'll write about part of that

1388
01:02:07,820 --> 01:02:04,740
is because they're things that I cannot

1389
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:07,830
offer any documentary evidence or enough

1390
01:02:12,500 --> 01:02:10,410
that I feel it justifies you know

1391
01:02:14,180 --> 01:02:12,510
putting it you know I don't want people

1392
01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:14,190
I'm not going to ask people for money to

1393
01:02:19,820 --> 01:02:17,130
buy a book just full of pure take my

1394
01:02:23,540 --> 01:02:19,830
word for it speculation right I try in

1395
01:02:25,900 --> 01:02:23,550
my books and my talks to present the

1396
01:02:28,940 --> 01:02:25,910
things that I can point to either

1397
01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:28,950
documents or a known

1398
01:02:34,250 --> 01:02:31,410
in historical context to back it up

1399
01:02:36,770 --> 01:02:34,260
right but in the realm of those things I

1400
01:02:40,220 --> 01:02:36,780
don't talk about in won't talk about are

1401
01:02:42,260 --> 01:02:40,230
the things that convinced me of the

1402
01:02:46,190 --> 01:02:42,270
direction I'm going with this mysterious

1403
01:02:48,170 --> 01:02:46,200
way Jenny well I am intrigued men I

1404
01:02:50,990 --> 01:02:48,180
really do think you do great work I know

1405
01:02:52,760 --> 01:02:51,000
there will be comments that say there is

1406
01:02:55,520 --> 01:02:52,770
no such thing as an ex-military

1407
01:02:57,140 --> 01:02:55,530
intelligence guy and you know what all

1408
01:03:00,950 --> 01:02:57,150
those guys I hope you're listening right

1409
01:03:03,290 --> 01:03:00,960
now okay you know what I wish because

1410
01:03:05,240 --> 01:03:03,300
I'd be getting a paycheck okay if you

1411
01:03:06,740 --> 01:03:05,250
were my house right now I need cabinets

1412
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:06,750
in the kitchen some of my drawers are

1413
01:03:12,500 --> 01:03:09,810
missing their faces you know I just

1414
01:03:14,210 --> 01:03:12,510
might my tiling I just you know my I

1415
01:03:15,920 --> 01:03:14,220
live in a house that's falling apart and

1416
01:03:19,730 --> 01:03:15,930
I don't have the money to fix it up you

1417
01:03:21,859 --> 01:03:19,740
know if I were that okay I wouldn't be

1418
01:03:26,329 --> 01:03:21,869
you know my life would be a lot

1419
01:03:28,040 --> 01:03:26,339
different there okay so here's why I

1420
01:03:29,030 --> 01:03:28,050
laugh at them they're ignorant they

1421
01:03:29,630 --> 01:03:29,040
don't know what the hell they're talking

1422
01:03:33,620 --> 01:03:29,640
about

1423
01:03:36,530 --> 01:03:33,630
okay and because I know that I'm not you

1424
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:36,540
know this disinfo agent and of course

1425
01:03:39,950 --> 01:03:38,010
they'll say well yeah he's going to say

1426
01:03:43,010 --> 01:03:39,960
that but you know they've gone so far

1427
01:03:45,650 --> 01:03:43,020
down the paranoia stream that they need

1428
01:03:47,630 --> 01:03:45,660
to check themselves right but what can

1429
01:03:49,730 --> 01:03:47,640
we do again that's part of it crossing

1430
01:03:51,410 --> 01:03:49,740
the Rubicon they're gonna say what

1431
01:03:52,880 --> 01:03:51,420
they're going to say and maybe what I

1432
01:03:55,099 --> 01:03:52,890
put out there isn't important for them

1433
01:03:57,650 --> 01:03:55,109
to consider you know I have to consider

1434
01:04:00,319 --> 01:03:57,660
that too it just may not be anything

1435
01:04:02,990 --> 01:04:00,329
they need yeah well I understand their

1436
01:04:05,030 --> 01:04:03,000
perspective overall just because people

1437
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:05,040
you know the community has been burned

1438
01:04:09,290 --> 01:04:06,810
in the past but I've always thought of

1439
01:04:10,940 --> 01:04:09,300
you specifically as honest about your

1440
01:04:12,530 --> 01:04:10,950
background honest about what's been

1441
01:04:14,690 --> 01:04:12,540
disclosed to you versus what's

1442
01:04:17,930 --> 01:04:14,700
speculation and when your body of work

1443
01:04:19,940 --> 01:04:17,940
is compared to the ante Vassago epic

1444
01:04:21,940 --> 01:04:19,950
tales of jump rooms to Mars or quarry

1445
01:04:25,099 --> 01:04:21,950
Goods wild stories it seems way more

1446
01:04:27,200 --> 01:04:25,109
plausible and the dots seem to have some

1447
01:04:28,550 --> 01:04:27,210
logic to their connections and it's

1448
01:04:31,250 --> 01:04:28,560
based on more than just personal

1449
01:04:33,109 --> 01:04:31,260
testimony so I appreciate it and I put

1450
01:04:35,750 --> 01:04:33,119
you in a different category and a lot of

1451
01:04:38,329 --> 01:04:35,760
that other stuff thank you I hope that

1452
01:04:41,329 --> 01:04:38,339
it would be you know my background of my

1453
01:04:42,500 --> 01:04:41,339
honesty about it that does help with my

1454
01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:42,510
credibility

1455
01:04:46,880 --> 01:04:43,650
I'm one of these guys with that

1456
01:04:49,730 --> 01:04:46,890
background you know who really does have

1457
01:04:52,100 --> 01:04:49,740
the background that I claim but who is

1458
01:04:54,650 --> 01:04:52,110
not out there trying to sell you know a

1459
01:04:56,300 --> 01:04:54,660
line of horse crap just to make a buck

1460
01:04:58,460 --> 01:04:56,310
you know there's things I could be doing

1461
01:05:01,010 --> 01:04:58,470
that we'd be making me a lot more money

1462
01:05:02,690 --> 01:05:01,020
I just found out recently that some of

1463
01:05:05,570 --> 01:05:02,700
these guys get paid when they do these

1464
01:05:07,430 --> 01:05:05,580
podcasts great I'm not going to do any

1465
01:05:09,890 --> 01:05:07,440
of them yeah what am I do we have a

1466
01:05:15,920 --> 01:05:09,900
podcast guest Union we got to shut that

1467
01:05:18,410 --> 01:05:15,930
down right now a particular researcher

1468
01:05:20,480 --> 01:05:18,420
said you know my agent makes me charge X

1469
01:05:22,910 --> 01:05:20,490
number of dollars I'm like what the wait

1470
01:05:25,580 --> 01:05:22,920
a minute going on here's what I'm doing

1471
01:05:28,100 --> 01:05:25,590
wrong well I will say that the only time

1472
01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:28,110
that's ever come up in the years of I've

1473
01:05:33,740 --> 01:05:31,890
been doing this is uh the liaisons for

1474
01:05:37,160 --> 01:05:33,750
Steven Greer asked what the compensation

1475
01:05:39,460 --> 01:05:37,170
would be and I was like oh yeah I you

1476
01:05:43,130 --> 01:05:39,470
know I look at doing these things as

1477
01:05:45,230 --> 01:05:43,140
this is promotion you know I get yeah

1478
01:05:47,440 --> 01:05:45,240
it's a win-win yeah I get to tell people

1479
01:05:50,240 --> 01:05:47,450
where to buy my books if they choose to

1480
01:05:52,640 --> 01:05:50,250
yeah it I you know I finally reluctantly

1481
01:05:55,130 --> 01:05:52,650
put a donate button on my Empire of The

1482
01:05:57,380 --> 01:05:55,140
Wheel blogspot just because you know

1483
01:05:59,780 --> 01:05:57,390
well everybody else is doing it and yeah

1484
01:06:01,460 --> 01:05:59,790
I am flat broke and it would help but

1485
01:06:02,930 --> 01:06:01,470
you've never heard me this is the first

1486
01:06:04,850 --> 01:06:02,940
time I think I've mentioned it on your

1487
01:06:06,290 --> 01:06:04,860
show ever that I have a donate button I

1488
01:06:09,410 --> 01:06:06,300
don't push the hell out of it

1489
01:06:12,170 --> 01:06:09,420
I think I just recently tweeted it well

1490
01:06:14,270 --> 01:06:12,180
everyone should get supported for their

1491
01:06:17,120 --> 01:06:14,280
work and I don't think that we should

1492
01:06:18,890 --> 01:06:17,130
segregate the conspiracy community and

1493
01:06:21,170 --> 01:06:18,900
say oh well if you're making money off

1494
01:06:23,810 --> 01:06:21,180
work in this room only then it's

1495
01:06:25,820 --> 01:06:23,820
[\h__\h] but yet every other realm of

1496
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:25,830
life people are supposed to do what

1497
01:06:30,740 --> 01:06:28,290
they're good at and what they're and

1498
01:06:32,450 --> 01:06:30,750
what they enjoy right and nowhere else

1499
01:06:34,790 --> 01:06:32,460
does it have any merit on their

1500
01:06:37,490 --> 01:06:34,800
authenticity right and I think that's a

1501
01:06:39,050 --> 01:06:37,500
serious issue for us right I remembered

1502
01:06:41,240 --> 01:06:39,060
my point but the point I was getting to

1503
01:06:43,760 --> 01:06:41,250
is I do these podcasts because I look at

1504
01:06:46,970 --> 01:06:43,770
it as promotions even when I speak at

1505
01:06:49,130 --> 01:06:46,980
events if I make any money from that

1506
01:06:50,300 --> 01:06:49,140
event you know they pay for I tell them

1507
01:06:54,410 --> 01:06:50,310
you need to pay for my transportation

1508
01:06:55,970 --> 01:06:54,420
and my lodging and give me some space to

1509
01:06:59,000 --> 01:06:55,980
sell some books

1510
01:07:01,330 --> 01:06:59,010
I swear if I make anything it's putting

1511
01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:01,340
my books on a table I'm not paid to

1512
01:07:07,550 --> 01:07:04,170
actually speak at something I haven't

1513
01:07:10,250 --> 01:07:07,560
met that I recall or if I was it was

1514
01:07:11,780 --> 01:07:10,260
like you know nominal in fact I think I

1515
01:07:14,120 --> 01:07:11,790
did one TV appearance where I just

1516
01:07:16,130 --> 01:07:14,130
discovered that I forgot to mail in you

1517
01:07:18,500 --> 01:07:16,140
know the tax info thing they need to I

1518
01:07:20,690 --> 01:07:18,510
guess pay you so I haven't even pursued

1519
01:07:22,430 --> 01:07:20,700
what it is you know the nominal fee I

1520
01:07:24,620 --> 01:07:22,440
supposed to get on that that shows you

1521
01:07:26,599 --> 01:07:24,630
do I want to make money yeah but you

1522
01:07:28,130 --> 01:07:26,609
know my perspective has been well people

1523
01:07:30,740 --> 01:07:28,140
who are interested in my stuff will

1524
01:07:32,540 --> 01:07:30,750
hopefully buy my books and that's how I

1525
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:32,550
make my money right I don't think of

1526
01:07:37,310 --> 01:07:34,890
these boom every time I open my mouth or

1527
01:07:39,200 --> 01:07:37,320
deign to appear you know before the

1528
01:07:42,650 --> 01:07:39,210
masses that I'll get paid I mean I

1529
01:07:45,109 --> 01:07:42,660
consider it I'm lucky that you're asking

1530
01:07:46,550 --> 01:07:45,119
me to do this anybody who asked me to do

1531
01:07:49,730 --> 01:07:46,560
their show it's like oh cool

1532
01:07:52,490 --> 01:07:49,740
you know to ask them to pay me in this

1533
01:07:54,380 --> 01:07:52,500
thing I don't know I just and I feel

1534
01:07:55,700 --> 01:07:54,390
very lucky to have great guests too I

1535
01:07:57,740 --> 01:07:55,710
mean there's some excellent excellent

1536
01:07:59,240 --> 01:07:57,750
research being done out there and the

1537
01:08:01,310 --> 01:07:59,250
fact that they'll come on and spend a

1538
01:08:03,890 --> 01:08:01,320
couple hours with me is very humbling

1539
01:08:06,140 --> 01:08:03,900
too but it is a win-win the media game

1540
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:06,150
we play it is fun to think about the

1541
01:08:10,280 --> 01:08:07,609
fact that we're addressing a crowd

1542
01:08:13,070 --> 01:08:10,290
larger than the capacity of Madison

1543
01:08:15,519 --> 01:08:13,080
Square Garden several times over and we

1544
01:08:18,680 --> 01:08:15,529
don't even have to leave the house and

1545
01:08:20,150 --> 01:08:18,690
that said man big things keep doing what

1546
01:08:21,890 --> 01:08:20,160
you do I'm really looking forward to

1547
01:08:24,289 --> 01:08:21,900
that new book coming out I'm sure we can

1548
01:08:27,019 --> 01:08:24,299
talk about more stuff in more details

1549
01:08:29,059 --> 01:08:27,029
when it does and until then keep it up

1550
01:08:30,740 --> 01:08:29,069
all righty thank you Greg for having me

1551
01:08:31,160 --> 01:08:30,750
on and I look forward to talking with

1552
01:08:33,650 --> 01:08:31,170
you again

1553
01:08:36,920 --> 01:08:33,660
you got a man have a good one hey you

1554
01:08:39,440 --> 01:08:36,930
too and boom goes the dynamite good

1555
01:08:43,010 --> 01:08:39,450
people of the internet boom indeed

1556
01:08:45,170 --> 01:08:43,020
Walter Bosley he's the goddamn man

1557
01:08:47,450 --> 01:08:45,180
and I don't know if he's critical enough

1558
01:08:49,280 --> 01:08:47,460
of Trump for half of you out there but

1559
01:08:51,470 --> 01:08:49,290
when hating a guy like Trump is so

1560
01:08:53,570 --> 01:08:51,480
fashionable you kind of got to respect a

1561
01:08:55,220 --> 01:08:53,580
contrarian I don't have a whole lot of

1562
01:08:57,140 --> 01:08:55,230
nice things to say about any president

1563
01:08:59,269 --> 01:08:57,150
but it is just funny when I know I'm

1564
01:09:00,620 --> 01:08:59,279
gonna see comments like oh I had to shut

1565
01:09:03,079 --> 01:09:00,630
this off when the guests started

1566
01:09:04,700 --> 01:09:03,089
justifying Trump's behavior as if you

1567
01:09:07,430 --> 01:09:04,710
couldn't possibly get past something

1568
01:09:08,959 --> 01:09:07,440
like that to actually hear the super

1569
01:09:09,309 --> 01:09:08,969
unique and interesting things that the

1570
01:09:11,589 --> 01:09:09,319
guests

1571
01:09:13,419 --> 01:09:11,599
does have to say it's like how do you

1572
01:09:15,729 --> 01:09:13,429
deal with your grandparents or your gun

1573
01:09:17,530 --> 01:09:15,739
love and uncle don't we all spend time

1574
01:09:19,450 --> 01:09:17,540
with friends and family that have views

1575
01:09:21,910 --> 01:09:19,460
on politics or philosophy or religion

1576
01:09:24,069 --> 01:09:21,920
that's different than us does anyone

1577
01:09:24,459 --> 01:09:24,079
actually just do a 180 and walk the

1578
01:09:27,819 --> 01:09:24,469
other way

1579
01:09:29,589 --> 01:09:27,829
we shouldn't be so rigid that's the only

1580
01:09:31,749 --> 01:09:29,599
reason I'm kind of on this thing again

1581
01:09:33,669 --> 01:09:31,759
many of us are pretty on edge right now

1582
01:09:36,280 --> 01:09:33,679
and caught up in a particular identity

1583
01:09:38,109 --> 01:09:36,290
or worldview and I'm just trying to

1584
01:09:40,450 --> 01:09:38,119
bring everybody to the table and say

1585
01:09:42,819 --> 01:09:40,460
look I don't care what each of us thinks

1586
01:09:45,309 --> 01:09:42,829
about Trump as a man or as a president I

1587
01:09:47,169 --> 01:09:45,319
just think it's [\h__\h] amazingly weird

1588
01:09:49,209 --> 01:09:47,179
that his name is on these Charles Dale

1589
01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:49,219
Shaw drawings I think it's [\h__\h]

1590
01:09:53,499 --> 01:09:51,170
fascinating that his uncle had the

1591
01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:53,509
career that he had let's just hold hands

1592
01:09:57,189 --> 01:09:55,489
around the digital campfire and take in

1593
01:10:00,100 --> 01:09:57,199
those incredible facts and what they

1594
01:10:02,680 --> 01:10:00,110
could mean I don't care that Walter is a

1595
01:10:04,629 --> 01:10:02,690
bit more pro-military and his outlook I

1596
01:10:06,760 --> 01:10:04,639
mean that's his world he grew up in that

1597
01:10:08,319 --> 01:10:06,770
stuff worked in that stuff and that's

1598
01:10:09,810 --> 01:10:08,329
the reason he has a lot of the insights

1599
01:10:12,490 --> 01:10:09,820
that he actually gets to share with us

1600
01:10:14,890 --> 01:10:12,500
me I'm a weak nerd who's held a gun

1601
01:10:18,129 --> 01:10:14,900
three times in his life so funny how it

1602
01:10:20,709 --> 01:10:18,139
works out right clearly our experiences

1603
01:10:22,270 --> 01:10:20,719
shape us a whole lot and it doesn't make

1604
01:10:25,419 --> 01:10:22,280
one person right and one wrong

1605
01:10:27,189 --> 01:10:25,429
necessarily regardless I did like

1606
01:10:29,140 --> 01:10:27,199
Walters explanation of how he sees the

1607
01:10:31,240 --> 01:10:29,150
shadow government operating and that

1608
01:10:33,160 --> 01:10:31,250
every candidate has its own small M

1609
01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:33,170
mafia backing them and you can have

1610
01:10:38,020 --> 01:10:35,090
agents and double agents in the same

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01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:38,030
groups because these operations and this

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01:10:42,550 --> 01:10:40,280
espionage and these plants they aren't

1613
01:10:45,010 --> 01:10:42,560
new so their strings are more and more

1614
01:10:47,919 --> 01:10:45,020
tangled as time goes on that's how I see

1615
01:10:49,959 --> 01:10:47,929
things too to a large degree but I'm

1616
01:10:51,550 --> 01:10:49,969
glad we got to do this I finally got to

1617
01:10:53,919 --> 01:10:51,560
talk to someone at length about the

1618
01:10:55,629 --> 01:10:53,929
weirdness that is Baron Trump's journey

1619
01:10:58,149 --> 01:10:55,639
to the Inner Earth and all this Tesla

1620
01:11:00,250 --> 01:10:58,159
stuff and that's another trigger that's

1621
01:11:02,919 --> 01:11:00,260
gonna set off some flat earth fans

1622
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:02,929
how can Tesla build a craft to Mars in

1623
01:11:08,050 --> 01:11:06,530
1903 when space isn't real well we don't

1624
01:11:08,979 --> 01:11:08,060
know what's real and what isn't unless

1625
01:11:12,069 --> 01:11:08,989
we're talking about the moon landing

1626
01:11:14,080 --> 01:11:12,079
footage but it has been all the CGI and

1627
01:11:15,669 --> 01:11:14,090
fake stuff from NASA that sent me down

1628
01:11:17,729 --> 01:11:15,679
the rabbit hole more than anything else

1629
01:11:20,260 --> 01:11:17,739
and I think the more likely

1630
01:11:22,180 --> 01:11:20,270
interpretation of that [\h__\h]

1631
01:11:23,180 --> 01:11:22,190
is that we have shadowy groups that are

1632
01:11:25,280 --> 01:11:23,190
much further along

1633
01:11:27,110 --> 01:11:25,290
and they want us to believe and I'll

1634
01:11:29,120 --> 01:11:27,120
cite Gary McKinnon getting into the

1635
01:11:31,340 --> 01:11:29,130
Pentagon computers and seeing lists of

1636
01:11:33,620 --> 01:11:31,350
military astronauts stationed on space

1637
01:11:35,990 --> 01:11:33,630
platforms more than a decade ago and

1638
01:11:37,400 --> 01:11:36,000
there are many little conspiracy sagas

1639
01:11:40,370 --> 01:11:37,410
like Gary McKinnon's and I don't think

1640
01:11:43,000 --> 01:11:40,380
those are the psyops I think those are

1641
01:11:45,920 --> 01:11:43,010
the small tears in the veil of secrecy

1642
01:11:48,410 --> 01:11:45,930
so maybe this narrative is possible I

1643
01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:48,420
definitely like it and let's give Walter

1644
01:11:52,340 --> 01:11:50,250
some props for all the aspects of

1645
01:11:54,130 --> 01:11:52,350
subterranean life and lost cities that

1646
01:11:57,170 --> 01:11:54,140
enters into his work and his anecdotes

1647
01:11:59,300 --> 01:11:57,180
as this was going on I was thinking well

1648
01:12:01,189 --> 01:11:59,310
goddamn Walter and me have a lot more of

1649
01:12:02,900 --> 01:12:01,199
a synergy when it comes to the aspects

1650
01:12:05,780 --> 01:12:02,910
of the alternative world that we like to

1651
01:12:07,520 --> 01:12:05,790
see most I mean even go back to the

1652
01:12:10,400 --> 01:12:07,530
first show I ever did with Walter about

1653
01:12:12,260 --> 01:12:10,410
his book latitude 33 the arcane science

1654
01:12:13,189 --> 01:12:12,270
and hermetic engineering of the happiest

1655
01:12:15,979 --> 01:12:13,199
place on earth

1656
01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:15,989
that is a great topic right ley lines

1657
01:12:20,870 --> 01:12:18,090
and natural magic where Disneyland is

1658
01:12:23,030 --> 01:12:20,880
placed and his secret mission series is

1659
01:12:24,920 --> 01:12:23,040
right up my alley too so I think Walter

1660
01:12:27,170 --> 01:12:24,930
deserves more credit and attention than

1661
01:12:29,570 --> 01:12:27,180
he gets which makes me happy to have him

1662
01:12:31,160 --> 01:12:29,580
back on the higher side and also on the

1663
01:12:33,979 --> 01:12:31,170
subject of his books he did want me to

1664
01:12:36,920 --> 01:12:33,989
mention that he pulled most of his books

1665
01:12:38,930 --> 01:12:36,930
from Amazon you know we all fight our

1666
01:12:41,689 --> 01:12:38,940
battles against the various overbearing

1667
01:12:43,310 --> 01:12:41,699
titans of industry and now he sells his

1668
01:12:46,670 --> 01:12:43,320
books on lulu.com

1669
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:46,680
that's lu-lu dot-com and then you can

1670
01:12:52,040 --> 01:12:50,010
search Walter Bosley and find his whole

1671
01:12:53,870 --> 01:12:52,050
repertoire but let him know you like

1672
01:12:55,640 --> 01:12:53,880
this show throw him some love it's hard

1673
01:12:58,550 --> 01:12:55,650
out here for a pimp we all want to feel

1674
01:13:00,290 --> 01:12:58,560
appreciated once in a while and speaking

1675
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:00,300
of appreciation big thanks to everyone

1676
01:13:05,479 --> 01:13:03,449
who participated in my reddit AMA 95

1677
01:13:06,560 --> 01:13:05,489
percent positive comments and questions

1678
01:13:09,130 --> 01:13:06,570
so I can't complain

1679
01:13:11,990 --> 01:13:09,140
over a hundred queues were aid and

1680
01:13:14,270 --> 01:13:12,000
another bit of news people who have been

1681
01:13:16,970 --> 01:13:14,280
hoping wishing and praying for a higher

1682
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:16,980
side live event you need pray no more

1683
01:13:22,310 --> 01:13:20,010
it's happenin the higher side chats with

1684
01:13:25,010 --> 01:13:22,320
Greg Carl Wood and the tinfoil hat with

1685
01:13:27,050 --> 01:13:25,020
Sam Tripoli are doing a joint podcast

1686
01:13:30,260 --> 01:13:27,060
live in front of an audience at the ice

1687
01:13:32,750 --> 01:13:30,270
house comedy club in Pasadena I am

1688
01:13:34,370 --> 01:13:32,760
really psyched I am really nervous you

1689
01:13:36,980 --> 01:13:34,380
don't want to throw a party that nobody

1690
01:13:39,590 --> 01:13:36,990
shows up for and I got a bit of my

1691
01:13:41,270 --> 01:13:39,600
mutation out there on the line and these

1692
01:13:43,100 --> 01:13:41,280
comics they're hoping I can actually put

1693
01:13:45,950 --> 01:13:43,110
asses and seats and people actually

1694
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:45,960
might want to see me it's only ten bucks

1695
01:13:51,140 --> 01:13:48,810
it's on October 10th at the Ice House in

1696
01:13:53,090 --> 01:13:51,150
Pasadena please please please come if

1697
01:13:55,190 --> 01:13:53,100
you can I think there are tickets still

1698
01:13:57,050 --> 01:13:55,200
available I didn't have a couple dozen

1699
01:13:59,510 --> 01:13:57,060
people tell me they were gonna come just

1700
01:14:02,360 --> 01:13:59,520
from the social media posts but you can

1701
01:14:03,650 --> 01:14:02,370
trust about 10% of that usually I don't

1702
01:14:05,900 --> 01:14:03,660
know how we're gonna do the guests I

1703
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:05,910
think Sam says we have Eddie Bravo for

1704
01:14:10,670 --> 01:14:07,410
all the Rogan fans out there I've never

1705
01:14:12,380 --> 01:14:10,680
met Eddie but I'm kind of psyched to so

1706
01:14:13,910 --> 01:14:12,390
that's my deal sign up for plus if you

1707
01:14:16,400 --> 01:14:13,920
want to get twice as much higher side

1708
01:14:18,920 --> 01:14:16,410
today with Walter we got into the

1709
01:14:20,780 --> 01:14:18,930
underground chamber found below carlsbad

1710
01:14:23,510 --> 01:14:20,790
caverns and the remnants of an ancient

1711
01:14:24,920 --> 01:14:23,520
civilization we talked about the story

1712
01:14:26,750 --> 01:14:24,930
of his father and the humans he

1713
01:14:29,450 --> 01:14:26,760
encountered that had gone underground

1714
01:14:31,730 --> 01:14:29,460
what Walter's military mentor told him

1715
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:31,740
was found in Antarctica in the 1950s

1716
01:14:37,310 --> 01:14:34,710
that's pretty amazing also David Wilcock

1717
01:14:38,750 --> 01:14:37,320
and Corey good for people who know those

1718
01:14:40,670 --> 01:14:38,760
names and then we talked about other

1719
01:14:43,310 --> 01:14:40,680
stories from the subterranean realms all

1720
01:14:45,440 --> 01:14:43,320
good stuff classic higher side stuff I

1721
01:14:48,590 --> 01:14:45,450
hope you joined the club the higher side

1722
01:14:50,240 --> 01:14:48,600
chats plus calm I also posted a really

1723
01:14:52,540 --> 01:14:50,250
interesting newspaper article I found

1724
01:14:55,160 --> 01:14:52,550
from Tesla's day about one of his

1725
01:14:57,620 --> 01:14:55,170
discoveries or inventions that I'd never

1726
01:14:59,510 --> 01:14:57,630
heard of it's an eternal youth chair

1727
01:15:01,400 --> 01:14:59,520
where he's quoted in describing how

1728
01:15:02,900 --> 01:15:01,410
everyone will look forever young when

1729
01:15:05,090 --> 01:15:02,910
they get zapped by his electrical

1730
01:15:06,350 --> 01:15:05,100
current it's really interesting kind of

1731
01:15:08,300 --> 01:15:06,360
relates to what we talked about today

1732
01:15:10,850 --> 01:15:08,310
but you can see the article on the Plus

1733
01:15:12,920 --> 01:15:10,860
forums and before I really get out of

1734
01:15:14,840 --> 01:15:12,930
here there is one more thing I was

1735
01:15:16,130 --> 01:15:14,850
watching Roger stones press conference

1736
01:15:19,010 --> 01:15:16,140
today and if you haven't watched the

1737
01:15:21,230 --> 01:15:19,020
Netflix talk get me Roger stone Wow

1738
01:15:23,360 --> 01:15:21,240
you should talk about a guy who has some

1739
01:15:26,030 --> 01:15:23,370
serious influence behind the curtain but

1740
01:15:28,280 --> 01:15:26,040
he was talking to the media today about

1741
01:15:33,770 --> 01:15:28,290
the whole Russian collusion thing and he

1742
01:15:36,020 --> 01:15:33,780
made one pretty interesting remark none

1743
01:15:37,940 --> 01:15:36,030
whatsoever and I had made that public

1744
01:15:40,300 --> 01:15:37,950
yesterday we released the entire

1745
01:15:43,850 --> 01:15:40,310
exchange which takes place I believe

1746
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:43,860
between August 15th and September ninth

1747
01:15:50,649 --> 01:15:48,210
many weeks after the publication by

1748
01:15:53,770 --> 01:15:50,659
WikiLeaks of the

1749
01:15:57,310 --> 01:15:53,780
dnc material meaning collusion with

1750
01:16:00,430 --> 01:15:57,320
gusoff err in the hacking and release of

1751
01:16:03,479 --> 01:16:00,440
that material would be impossible unless

1752
01:16:06,669 --> 01:16:03,489
I owned a time machine which I do not

1753
01:16:09,070 --> 01:16:06,679
yeah you might not Roger but you just

1754
01:16:11,140 --> 01:16:09,080
might know someone who does well that's

1755
01:16:13,209 --> 01:16:11,150
it for me folks your move time-traveling

1756
01:16:15,490 --> 01:16:13,219
Trump's NIMS and Nazis in the secret

1757
01:16:19,669 --> 01:16:15,500
order of the Martian colony you're

1758
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:24,860
woke up this morning with light in my

1759
01:16:33,610 --> 01:16:30,170
eyes and then realize it was done

1760
01:16:48,260 --> 01:16:36,760
it was alive

1761
01:16:58,860 --> 01:16:53,700
must be those strangers that come every

1762
01:17:05,400 --> 01:16:58,870
night who's a saucer-shaped alight but

1763
01:17:11,790 --> 01:17:05,410
people obtain the blue-green footprint

1764
01:17:13,650 --> 01:17:11,800
as my glow-in-the-dark I hope they get

1765
01:17:19,450 --> 01:17:13,660
home

1766
01:17:26,750 --> 01:17:25,640
mr. spaceman won't you please take me

1767
01:17:34,910 --> 01:17:26,760
along

1768
01:17:40,580 --> 01:17:34,920
I won't do anything wrong hey mr.

1769
01:17:45,930 --> 01:17:40,590
spaceman won't you please take me along

1770
01:17:54,400 --> 01:17:50,209
hold up this morning

1771
01:17:58,220 --> 01:17:54,410
feeling quite weird I had it slide

1772
01:18:01,640 --> 01:17:58,230
in my beer my tooth pain

1773
01:18:09,440 --> 01:18:04,030
open the window

1774
01:18:11,560 --> 01:18:09,450
written my name so long

1775
01:18:20,520 --> 01:18:11,570
we'll see you

1776
01:18:23,919 --> 01:18:20,530
[Music]

1777
01:18:32,140 --> 01:18:23,929
won't you please give me

1778
01:18:35,910 --> 01:18:34,060
is the space

1779
01:18:49,340 --> 01:18:35,920
[Music]

1780
01:18:55,380 --> 01:18:49,350
this face man

1781
01:18:56,120 --> 01:18:55,390
want to please take me alone won't do

1782
01:19:03,800 --> 01:18:56,130
anything

1783
01:19:08,490 --> 01:19:03,810
[Music]

1784
01:19:15,189 --> 01:19:08,500
why don't you please take me along the

1785
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:23,910
take me along the high